On Sun, 26 Aug 2007, Dev Mazumdar wrote:
>> Oh C'mon. 512Mb is not enough to run Windoze XP
>> reasonably - even if
>> you can actually install it. With 1Gb memory DIMMs
>> around $50 (or
>> less), expecting to run a state-of-the-art OS in
>> 512Mb is "absolutely
>> unacceptable". If you're serious about
>> (Open)Solaris, then you're
>> serious about your hardware.
>>
>> PS: Take a quick look at these two cost effective
>> systems, each with
>> 4Gb of RAM built by Bob Palowoda at:
>>
>> http://www.fiver.net/misc/solarisamdbox.html
>>
>
> Al,
>
> This is a laptop with 512MB RAM. The base laptop has 256M and I've
> populated the extra slot with another 256M so no, there's no more
> expansion slots available.
Hi Dev (aka Mr. OpenSound)!
Yep - I see your point.
> A state of the art OS shouldn't be this bloated. I don't think
One of the reasons is backwards compatibility and the stability
guarantees that come standard with Solaris. With the current EOL
policies - it can take (up to) 2 years to get rid of a
package/file/binary (or whatever). There are both upsides and
downsides to this policy.
Current case in point: ksh93 will ship as /usr/bin/ksh93 when
it ships in Solaris. Along with the standard Sun ksh88 as
/usr/bin/ksh. Bloat? yes. User compatibility/stability? yes.
So when you say "A state of the art OS shouldn't be this bloated", I
can agree in principle - but the tradeoffs are not that simple.
Perhaps project Indiana will provide the mechanism to allow a
distribution to ship with minimum bloat but with a "compromised"
stability/compatibility set of guarantees along with an EOL policy
that can operate inside a 6 month window.
> Solaris needs more than 256MB of RAM to run satisfactorily. I've got
> Solaris 10 FCS running on a 256MB machine. It's the installer that
> is busted.
OK - I understand your point. I think that the installer issue has
already been addressed by the Caiman installer team and that they are
working on b70b which will ship as SXDE in the next couple of weeks
(?? just my guess as regards timing). But you'd have to check with
the Caiman team to see if the installer/512Mb-memory bugfix made the
SXDE cutoff.
PS: Congrats on the opensourcing of OpenSound. A valuable and
significant addition to Unix for which the FOSS user community is
in your debt.
Regards,
Al Hopper Logical Approach Inc, Plano, TX. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Voice: 972.379.2133 Fax: 972.379.2134 Timezone: US CDT
OpenSolaris Governing Board (OGB) Member - Apr 2005 to Mar 2007
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