On Mon, 14 Jan 2008, Dennis Clarke wrote:

        hi Dennis,

>I use SSH daily and on just about everything I own. I do not wear a tin-foil
>hat but I do use aes256-cbc ( or similar ) as my Cipher of choice and I
>generally configure servers to *only* accept aes256-cbc ( or similar ). I
>also tend to set KeyRegenerationInterval to 300 secs and I do not allow the
>use of a cleartext password.

        this is this one:

        6617424 aes192-cbc/aes256-cbc support is missing from ssh/sshd

        however, using anything else than aes128 is just burning CPU cycles. 
A nice paper about that was written in 1996 and think it still stands:

        http://www.schneier.com/paper-keylength.pdf

>The SunSSH version is this :
>
>$ /usr/bin/ssh -V
>Sun_SSH_1.1, SSH protocols 1.5/2.0, OpenSSL 0x0090704f
>
>I do not know what that means.

        SunSSH 1.1. Sun forked OpenSSH, twice basically. The second fork was 
from OpenSSH 3.5p1. And it's documented here:

        http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/security/projects/SSH/

># /usr/bin/ssh -V
>Sun_SSH_1.2, SSH protocols 1.5/2.0, OpenSSL 0x0090801f
># /usr/bin/ssh -2 -4 -c aes256-cbc mars
>Unknown cipher type 'aes256-cbc'

        yes, a newer version of SunSSH. The increased version number means 
that a new compatibility flag was added. Again, it's documented on 
OpenSolaris SSH page.

>So the short answer here is that I don't know what the Sun implementation of
>SSH is really but it seems to be NOT what we see at the source site. So that
>really is the only reason why I tend to run the packages built on reference
>servers that I trust and with source code drawn directly from the well.
>
>Am I wrong to think this way ?

        well, I don't really think there is a need for that (and I gave an 
example the last time that being conservative might mean being more secure, 
not less) but I understand that you might want to run latest OpenSSH and 
nothing else.

        Jan.

-- 
Jan Pechanec
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