Hi, Keep in mind that right now OpenSolaris is quite new. IPS is completely new, and still being developed. Give us some time =O)
I hope that support for OpenSolaris will get a proper, commercial grade support structure in the future. I may even be one of the people responsible for supplying the support (I do developer and OEM support now). But I don't think we're ready for that yet. Speaking totally as me and not Sun here, of course. Installing and using OpenSolaris was a revelation for me, after years of using the Solaris installer to upgrade to new "beta" builds every two weeks. I'd played with other Linux releases, worked with our own JDS Linux for a while, and nothing I'd ever seen before matched the ease of install I saw there. And the first time I used pkg to upgrade and saw I had a backup BE added to my grub menu automatically, backed by a ZFS snapshot... I was grinning and showing colleagues for ages after, and have convinced some to switch their laptops to it. But it's still fairly new. Give the guys building it time. Ta, Mark. Kristian Rink wrote: > Hi; > > Mark R. Bowyer schrieb: > [...] >> I'm not really in the right bit of Sun to answer that. My understanding >> is that Solaris Next will look a lot more like OpenSolaris than it looks >> like Solaris 10 right now, though. For instance I believe the packaging >> system will be the new pkg, rather than the old pkgadd. > > This in my opinion does raise interesting questions, most important in > my opinion whether Sun will or will not have power / resources to > permanently keep a "sane" IPS repository up and running? So far, > comparing to, say, Ubuntu or Debian, the IPS repositories available to > OpenSolaris users are somewhat small to say the very least... ;) > > >> Solaris 10 is sticking with the versions of Gnome and other libraries it >> initially shipped with to ensure binary and source compatibility, and >> any required bug fixes are ported back to that. And if you were an ISV, >> paying to test your software on every release you supported, that's what >> you'd want. > > Agreed without second thought. Us being lucky enough to "just" have Java > applications based upon any of these platforms (Linux, Solaris), we > couldn't care less... :] Nevertheless still I am into preparing our next > server deployment for glassfish to be either OpenSolaris or Solaris 10, > haven't yet made up my mind which one to go for. :) > > > [...] >> again, and so we'll need a Solaris Next release fairly soon to allow all >> this fantastic work out to the customers who demand the full Solaris >> platform, with all the support and compatibility guarantees that entails. > > Won't "commercially-supported OpenSolaris", possibly following a release > / lifetime scheme like Ubuntu, be a way outta here? > > > >> That is after all one of the main things Solaris has over Linux, beyond >> the technology. Until recently my old SunOS binary of Mozaic 0.9 beta >> still ran on a Solaris system, although it's ability to render pages >> became less and less useful ;O). Try running a 10 year old binary on a >> current Linux system. > > Out of nostalgia I actually once in a while lean back having a glass of > red wine browsing the web using an ancient Netscape Communicator on > Linux. But I guess static builds don't count here. ;) > > >> And how unreliable it's been until the latest update. >> Although I have had to do a complete reinstall through it once already, >> and it worked brilliantly =O) > > Yes I also enjoyed the idea in terms of features, but, honestly, I just > dislike the UI which in my opinion is a little too much "effect bashing" > to be seriously used... ZFS snapshots, so far, are less spectacular but > overally seemingly way more effective. > > >> But now - this being OpenSolaris - there is absolutely nothing to stop >> you writing such a thing yourself ;O) > > There is something stopping me, actually two things: Time and > experience. ;) Maybe being a Java developer in first instance, this is > not the right kind of tool to create a nautilus addon. However I > consider these things interesting for OpenSolaris, as so far, from a > desktop users point of view, OS 2008.05 has little "new" / specific to > offer... :( > > Cheers, > Kristian > _______________________________________________ opensolaris-discuss mailing list [email protected]
