--- On Tue, 3/2/10, Erik Trimble <[email protected]> wrote:
Ian Collins wrote:
> Edward Ned Harvey wrote:
>>
>> Here's how I interpret all of this: I think they're shifting some
>> percentage of developers from opensolaris to solaris. Instead of letting
>> opensolaris lead the way, and "trickle down" with open source contributions
>> to solaris ... Solaris will lead the way, and contributions will trickle
>> down to opensolaris, sometimes closed source.
>>
>>
> It's rather difficult for stuff to trickle up hill. OpenSolaris is a long
> way ahead of Solaris and things will continue that way at least until Solaris
> Next.
>
> More likely the OS development will remain as is and it will be the value add
> features that will be closed.
Now, Oracle may chose to have these new features made publicly available in the
OpenSolaris repos, or they may consider them Value Add and not release them,
but I'm 99.99% sure the actual development work is being done against the
OpenSolaris codebase, not the Solaris 10 codebase.
What I'm really waiting for (and I'm sure the Solaris Team is, too) is for
Official Word as to when Solaris Next will actually emerge. That is, is Oracle
targeting a 2010 release date for Solaris Next? Or a 2011? Or later? I can
imagine this isn't going to be forthcoming anytime soon, as that's a huge
decision.
>> But the good news is: Development efforts and valuable contributions
>> continue for both. Hopefully they'll start by taking all the ways
>> opensolaris is more advanced than solaris ... and incorporate them into
>> solaris.
>>
>>
> Hasn't that always been the plan? Solaris Next will be based on OpenSolaris.
>
Yes. Solaris Next = OpenSolaris codebase + stabilization work + some Value Add
proprietary stuff
Exactly how much of the later there will be is anyone's guess at this point.
And, once again, Solaris Next may not externally look like any given release
OpenSolaris, but under the hood, it will show a extremely strong relationship.
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I agree pretty much with what Erik said. Sun mentioned to its developers that
"Solaris Next" is the new Solaris OS replacing the legacy Solaris kernel and OS
environment. Yet, there would be two trains which relates to how the
Fedora/RHES model works today (i.e. as an example). New technological
development is done in the 'development' OpenSolaris track which trickles back
to the stable branch - more likely a DVD release on a much slower moving target
than the smaller 6-month Live CD 'tested' release cycle. OpenSolaris is not
going anywhere and surely not back to a closed-source model - which should be
considered very unwise at this point if done for some odd reason. Killing off
the project would not set well with the current developer and consultant base -
now matter how big or small we think it is (i.e. supposedly 6.5 million paid
subscribers and 20,000 ISVs/partners).
Third-party ISVs like Belenix, Milak, EON, Bordeaux, and Nexenta have already
built 'home-grown' environments from the OpenSolaris kernel to create desktop
and server VAS distributions. Some of these ISVs are using the OpenSolaris
kernel for their primary business technology model. Oracle would only do damage
by removing something depended on 'so much' by many of these small businesses
and organizations - as well as legacy customers wanting to upgrade to something
more current and supported by Oracle.
~ Ken Mays
“Different isn't always better, but better is always different.”
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