None of Sun's or Oracle's actual products has real license keys build into the
software. So, it will not stop nor be feature-reduced!
You "only" will no longer be allowed to used it. When or if-at-all Oracle
might think about sueing you, is totally unclear... They are entiteld to do
so, but Oracle would need a real business case to really try to fine you... My
guess...
And the removal of software-components from Solaris 10, and not putting those
into OpenSolaris were license issues. All "DT" stuff is based on Motif, which
is not free, nor opensource. Therefore they needed to be removed, as an
example.
Matthias
You (ken mays) wrote:
> I'll just reply here for clarity purposes. So after day 90, does Oracle
> Solaris 10 stop working or hit some limited-feature usage activation?!? Is
> Oracle saying to stop using Solaris 10 after 90 days or else we get fined?!?
>
> The two tracks, OpenSolaris and Solaris 10, are not affected the same way.
> OpenSolaris is an open source community-involved project. Solaris 10 is a
> closed source production 'competitively enterprise-marketed' commercial
> product. Not everything in the realms of OpenSolaris-based projects will make
> their way into the final Oracle Solaris product. Some parts of Solaris 10
> were dropped from the official binary OpenSoalris-based distros. How they are
> looked at and supported are a bit different as well as licenses.
>
> I'd expect bigger corporations with large server deployments to pay for 24x7
> or even 12x5 Solaris 10 technical web/phone support - as doing it for free
> does not make good business sense. The license evolves somewhat around that
> subject matter.
>
> Now, I'd ring a very large bell if Oracle Solaris 10 downloads were stopped
> and you had to pay for the downloads. I'd ring it louder if Oracle support
> forums and such became a paid service. But the community has a WEALTH of
> professional service consultants, Oracle partners, engineers, developers,
> analysts, and business people to resolve the majority of issues dealing with
> Solaris 10 - either for free or for a small fee. As long as you can download
> and access your copy of Solaris 10 - why rock the boat harder due to the
> current 90-day license?!?
>
> Maybe what Oracle should have said is, "don't call us if you are using Oracle
> Solaris 10 in a commercial environment and don't want to pay us for major
> break/fix technical support after your initial 90-day usage of it."
>
> The main issue was dealing with civil discussion and Solaris 10 licensing.
> The non-civil discussion spawned a larger forked debate. As for the
> licensing, I'll try to point out that Oracle's statement means moreso that
> after 90-days you'll pay for Oracle's support - mainly if you are using
> Solaris 10 for commercial use and expect Oracle to 'officially' help you.
>
> Other like-minded corporations usually give you 30-90 days of free technical
> support and usage, then tell you that continued usage requires PAID technical
> break/fix and phone support. Some companies give you a year of a free support
> subscription if you got the product through an OEM or VAR. But, if you call
> them with some MAJOR break/fix issue and tie up their help desk personnel,
> then they ask for you to pay for that support.
>
> So again, download your copy of Solaris 10 10/09 ASAP if you don't already
> have it and pay for whatever >=90 day warranty or technical support you need.
> Otherwise, you have other options to utilize for your work or hobbist
> environment.
>
> May our cups run over,
> Ken Mays
>
>
>
>
> --- On Tue, 3/30/10, Mike DeMarco <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > From: Mike DeMarco <[email protected]>
> > Subject: Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris 10 - no longer free
> > To: [email protected]
> > Date: Tuesday, March 30, 2010, 9:47 AM
> > Most of us that run OpenSolaris rely
> > on Solaris 10 also. We live our day to day on Solaris 10 and
> > OpenSolaris. As far as I am concerned they go hand in hand
> > and a major event affecting one of them has ramifications on
> > both. The discussions that go on on this list are not 100%
> > OpenSolaris but are a collection of like topics that draw
> > like interests. If you do not like a topic you can skip over
> > it. I do not understand people that have to get on a thread
> > and trash it for being in the wrong place, Why do you not
> > just skip reading this thread if you do not agree with it
> > being here. Why can you not just leave the thread alone.
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