> From: [email protected] [mailto:opensolaris-
> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Chad Welsh
> 
> I recommend you police your employee's and their demeaning behavior!!!

If you're talking about me (I am the recent offender for language on the
list, and I apologize again for that) ... I am not an employee of sun or
oracle, or in any way affiliated.  I am just an IT guy, whose reason for
being on this list is interest in solaris/opensolaris, and especially in
love with ZFS.


> when you treat people in that fashion they always tend to backlash. I
> think you should know best since I am always reading your post about
> making a better community. When you have company representatives
> (whether they realize they are or not) having attitude problems (holier
> than thou syndrome) with peoples opinions whether justified or not is
> only going to make the community hate you.

You seem to have disappointment in oracle's employees and contribution to
the free community.  This is the reason why I responded negatively toward
your previous post.  

By posting here, you are not reaching oracle execs.  You are reaching
enthusiasts, and volunteers who like talking about a cool product.  If you
want to pressure oracle, you should call the support line, with your support
contract, on your commercial products.  Every time people post here, with
all the FUD garbage, expressing so strongly that we're all disappointed and
let down ...  They're just rubbing salt into the wounds of the engineers who
are on this list.  The people who are on your side.  It's a free product,
that you're not paying for or contributing to, and it's an insult to the
volunteers who are contributing to it.

Oracle has made it clear that their commercial focus moving forward is
solaris proper.  That means you need to think of opensolaris as a free
product, and all of the contributions from oracle you should think of as
volunteer effort.  They have no obligation to you.  Negativity in the
community does not motivate the developers to work harder.  

The reasons for opensolaris to exist are:
(a) Some day, when opensolaris becomes the replacement for solaris, you are
already familiar with all the stuff that's new.  Assuming you were using
opensolaris at home because you think it's so cool.
(b) Provide a channel for community developers to contribute.  Even though
not much of this happens.
(c) Opensolaris is a marketing tool.  If you like ZFS etc, use opensolaris
at home.  Then you can tell everyone at work how great it is, and how much
you love it at home, and convince the company to buy Solaris so you can use
it at work too.
(d) Provide an unsupported sandbox for enthusiasts to work in, using
experimental features for free.  Then, when features are mature enough, they
can be ported into a commercial OS that has support.  It keeps the quality
of the supported release product up to a good standard, while minimizing the
support and development cost.


> do what you will with me I am just the messenger for the people that

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