On 06.07.2010 06:38, Edward Ned Harvey wrote: >> From: [email protected] [mailto:opensolaris- >> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Ken Gunderson >> >> As I mentioned earlies, Solaris commercial is irrelevant.
Let me make it a little more gradual: Unless you have very deep pockets, Solaris being commercial-and-a-half (look at the price bracket and tell me it's not!) is irrelevant. > You can't just make a statement like that, as if it were a fact of some > kind, and expect to retain any credibility. Qualify your statement such as: > It's irrelevant to you personally. So be it. And then I can interpret what > you say: To me, your assessment of what's irrelevant is irrelevant. And you can't go on slamming anyone who doesn't say exactly what your wishful thinking is, and retain that same credibility you're referring to. Remember some posts up when I said there were two kinds of trolls? This method matches very good with the sugar-coated kind. I'm not saying you ARE a troll, I'm just saying that this behavior is very close to one. > I didn't quite glean any point of any kind out of your message, except to be > pointlessly negative. Personally, I love opensolaris and solaris, and I > wish you would quit dumping on it unless you're producing some sort of > interesting and engaging conversation that we all learn or benefit from. Ahh, so now you're accusing him of being a corporate shill with some agenda? Nice move. How much did Darth Ellison pay you for that one? > I use sol10 and osol at home and at work. For some purposes (esp. file > server), I feel they are the best-in-class solution, and I don't see any > other products approaching that anytime soon. For home, I'm comfortable > using a free product. For work, I feel it's the best-practice to have an OS > with a support contract. AKA solaris proper, AKA solaris 10, AKA solaris > commercial. That's your prerogative. Quite many feel quite comfortable with running Operating systems without that support contract for work issues, as long as they can get a support contract for their hardware. It seems Oracle doesn't want any money, unless they can get all of it, so that makes Solaris 10 an irrelevant choice for those customers. Basically their greed reflex is causing them to shoot their own foot, because those customers being burnt by that attitude will NEVER EVER let any oracle products in the door again, anywhere, if they can help it. > As for possibilities moving forward, the one thing that is really entirely > certain is that sol10 will remain commercially available and supported, for > all of us professionals who feel the support is relevant and even required. So ... now anybody who doesn't want Oracle siphoning their money us unprofessional? GREAT ARGUMENT. It solved a mystery. I had been doubting whether you were a sugar-sweetened troll or just a very clumsy corporate shill. But that line of argument made the answer clear. Can you at least TRY to stick to the facts? Let me help you: Have, or have not, all publicly available OpenSolaris binary resources been frozen since 134? Have, or have not, Oracle went radio-silent about Oracle since then. Have, or have not, This meant we've passed several release deadlines without any release. //Svein -- --------+-------------------+------------------------------- /"\ |Svein Skogen | [email protected] \ / |Solberg Østli 9 | PGP Key: 0xE5E76831 X |2020 Skedsmokorset | [email protected] / \ |Norway | PGP Key: 0xCE96CE13 | | [email protected] ascii | | PGP Key: 0x58CD33B6 ribbon |System Admin | [email protected] Campaign|stillbilde.net | PGP Key: 0x22D494A4 +-------------------+------------------------------- |msn messenger: | Mobile Phone: +47 907 03 575 |[email protected] | RIPE handle: SS16503-RIPE --------+-------------------+------------------------------- If you really are in a hurry, mail me at [email protected] This mailbox goes directly to my cellphone and is checked even when I'm not in front of my computer. ------------------------------------------------------------ Picture Gallery: https://gallery.stillbilde.net/v/svein/ ------------------------------------------------------------
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