Yeah, while I was at OOW, I talked to the product manager for Solaris who told me that the source code will be released when there is an official release of Solaris 11. So basically, we have to wait until it's all baked in before a code drop. So the only way we'll get to see new features is through Solaris 11 Express which will just be a binary distribution with a pkg repo to work with.
Personally, it's nice having the code out there for developers and what not. But at the same time, I understand Oracle's concerns. Having every new feature and fix out there for the whole world to see just invites the competition to reverse engineer and compete better with Solaris which is not what Oracle wants. Oracle wants the honor of releasing a baked release to "one up" the competition and keep the advantage on their side. Nothing wrong with that from a business perspective. Not like you see Apple, Coke, or McDonalds giving out recipes on their next big thing. What I would like is for the community to be able to continue to file bugs and work with the engineers to fix things at least. But support is also a revenue generating business, so it's unlikely. Now from a licensing perspective, I was told by this same product manager that the OTN license does enable us to use Solaris 11 Express, Solaris 11, and Solaris 10 for personal use (development, education, evaluation, hobby, etc.) for free. It's only when you use those products for production that they want you to pay. I did give him feedback on the debates here in the forums about how the use cases needed to be spelled out more clearly and he agreed. And I think that's pretty reasonable and in-line with how Oracle handles its other product lines where you can download them and run them for free until you're using them in production. So to all the FUD spreaders or those over-reacting and thinking they have to switch to Linux, you can put the breaks on that and take the tin-foil hats and penguin suits off. You can still have your Solaris for free:) *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* Octave J. Orgeron Solaris Virtualization Architect and Consultant Web: http://unixconsole.blogspot.com E-Mail: unixcons...@yahoo.com *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* ----- Original Message ---- From: Volker A. Brandt <v...@bb-c.de> To: Uros Nedic <ur...@live.com> Cc: OpenSolarisDiscuss <opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org> Sent: Fri, October 1, 2010 5:22:12 AM Subject: Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris 11 Express Hi Uros! I admire your persistence! :-) > While I have been in SF, I visited Oracle booth during OOW, JavaOne and > Oracle Develop. They said to me that they plan to release Solaris Express > each couple of months (6-months, let say). After few Solaris Express > releases they plan to release Solaris Update patch as a collection of > all add-ons in all Solaris Express releases during two updates. Yes, that is what I have heard. > There, I spoke with some Senior Engineer, who told me that there *is* also > possibility that they release bi-weekly binary builds, as they did it > regularly almost year ago, but this time without any source code. Interesting... but we have learned the hard way that what Oracle engineers say, even with the best intentions, is not what Oracle might say. > My question is pointless maybe, but maybe still have chances to get this, > too. Things are not yet so consolidated as you believe. I realised it > after SF conference. If anyone is interested I could write one post > elaborating everything with citations. I am not going to tell you what you should or should not write. :-) It's just that I don't see much good such a discussion on this list. We all here want the source anyway. The question for Oracle is what revenue a source drop might bring, directly or indirectly. Best regards -- Volker A. Brandt -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Volker A. Brandt Consulting and Support for Sun Solaris Brandt & Brandt Computer GmbH WWW: http://www.bb-c.de/ Am Wiesenpfad 6, 53340 Meckenheim Email: v...@bb-c.de Handelsregister: Amtsgericht Bonn, HRB 10513 Schuhgröße: 45 Geschäftsführer: Rainer J. H. Brandt und Volker A. Brandt _______________________________________________ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org _______________________________________________ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org