"First of all, things are working ..." 

How so very wrong!

"Second ... see docs.sun.com and in there you have manual for solaris and 
creating smf services. search for solaris management facilithy."

It's like I'm hearing "Here's the bible, solve your own problems!"  Is this 
what passes for "community" here?  For one thing, that should be "service 
management facility", but the answers to what I'm experiencing are not easily 
found in there.

"Third to configure ipv6 is as simples as configuring in solaris 9. 
create /etc/hostname6.interface
add the hostname entry in /etc/inet/ipnodes"

Wrong!  I already had this base covered.  The system only plumbs to link level 
on ipv6.  It doesn't plumb through the tunnel.  My Solaris 9 boxes plumbed 
through the tunnel.  I have to type "ifconfig hme0 inet6 plumb up" to get the 
tunnel plumbed on Solaris 11 out of the box.

"start named upon reboot plain an simples as: svcadm enable dns/server
done it's started across reboots"

Wrong! This doesn't start it up.  I can start it up at the command line, and it 
stays up until I kill it or reboot it.  But I obviously don't have the recipe 
for making the smf start it up.  "svcs" reports only name-service-cache online. 
 I can still start up named from the command line.

"Fourth ... this is unix why do you need gui tools???? do you use then as well 
in debian??? "

I'd strongly prefer to avoid the gui.  It's not in my culture to use the gui.

But when I do try to use the gui out of the box, it should work.  It hasn't 
been working for me; some critical administration tools simply won't start up 
for me on Gnome, and using CDE those tools aren't even on the menu.  There are 
a lot of oddities here such as things that should be on the menu but aren't.  
There's no IDE that I can locate for doing development.  Honestly, I loaded all 
6 disks.

"Fifth ... ZFS is activated by default on Solaris Developer Preview or in 
Nexenta. If you want ZFS at boot search on www.opensolaris.org, there is a 
manual to do that (x64 only maybe it has been updated since I last seen)"

You know, that's what I was expecting.  My question is whether "format" is 
reporting the filesystem correctly to me when it says that my partitions are 
"ufs".  Is it possible that the software isn't zfs-aware, and reports ufs in 
lieu of zfs?  Or is it possible that the expected zfs filesystem wasn't used 
and I'm actually using ufs?  It matters, because next I'd like to add a second 
drive and create a mirror.

"Do you know the term RTM (I'm omitting the F before the M :P) linux guys 
usually know it as well. docs.sun.com search for Solaris 10. For now they are 
quite alike."

Is there anyone out there who accepts the notion that OpenSolaris is a 
community?  Is this the kind of response that passes for community here?

If the manual was answering my questions here I'd never have posted "getting 
things working woes" in the first place.  I'm an experienced and effective 
solaris systems admin with ongoing relationships with legacy systems running 
software as old as SunOS (BSD) and as new as Solaris 9.

Perhaps a little deeper background will help here:

I did not assign a fixed IPv4 address while installing Solaris 11.  I used DHCP 
to automatically assign an IPv4 address.  It seems that the installation 
software, under those circumstances, doesn't prompt for a system name.  So the 
system name gets set to "unknown" when installation is performed.

Next, I started up Gnome and tried to use the gui tools to assign the system 
name.  Bzzzzzzt.  The gui tools for doing this don't work.  I could use the 
services manager gui to start up sshd and ftpd, or to disable unwanted services 
like rlogind and telnetd.  But there's no named there.  In solaris 9, named 
starts up automatically by default if you install named.conf and the zone 
configuration files.  You can also read the file in init.d to see or change the 
command line that starts up named.

Now, for many of you out there, I'd guess your experience may have been 
different.  Perhaps you assigned a system name and fixed IP address during 
installation.  Perhaps that means that some gui tools work for you though they 
don't work for me.  Perhaps my gui tools are still unaware of my hostname, thus 
cannot connect to the necessary services.  Putting the hostname everywhere it 
belongs in a solaris 9 system (such as /etc/hostname.hme0) might not tell the 
gui all that it needs to know.  But a DHCP environment is still a valid use of 
a solaris 11 system.  Shouldn't the tools work?  Isn't there a community forum 
somewhere for reporting when problems occur.  

This was, quite frankly, a very routine installation from the point of view of 
a user.  I shouldn't have found myself in trouble, here.  Things should be 
working just as the manuals tell me.  I should be able to consult the manuals 
and follow the instructions contained therein.  Instead, the manuals are 
useless to me.  And I get "read the fucking manual" from the community.

Does anyone understand what I'm getting at here?  Is this the kind of team 
building that the OpenSolaris community engages in?
 
 
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