Mike,

> On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 01:46:19 PDT
> "Richard L. Hamilton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>   
>>> Right now I've mounted my old SXDE iso and installing
>>> the packages from it by hand... However, this is very
>>> inefficient. Hopefully future distros of opensolaris
>>> will include all the useful stuff.
>>>       
>> One CD can only hold just so much - that's what the repository
>> (pkg.opensolaris.org, I think) is for.  And while you and I might
>> agree that include files are useful, the average no-clue click monkey would
>> probably find one more GUI app (differing according to their needs) far
>> more useful, since they couldn't even _spell_ C, let alone write a "hello, 
>> world"
>> program in it!  The sad part is that the world contains a lot more of them 
>> than
>> of us...
>>     
>
> None of which leads to the conclusion that leaving off the headers is
> the best thing to do. Making developers happy helps generate more apps
> for the platform, which is universally useful. Making users happy just
> generates more users, which many people seem to see as a goal in and
> of itself, but that isn't necessarily universal.

I think that we agree...

OpenSolaris the distro is aimed at the desktop user; thus headers are 
definitely not needed. opensolaris the codebase is aimed at developers; 
thus headers are definitely required. If someone chooses to do 
development work on a desktop-oriented platform (and they do; obv); then 
they need to know how to get ahold of required packages through IPS by 
"pfexec pkg install SUNWhead" and similar. If they just want a desktop 
environment, then off they can go off the live CD or installed distro 
from it.

Basically OpenSolaris(Indiana)==desktop and 
opensolaris(Nevada)==development. You make your mid-ground and you lie 
in it ;-) Cross-fertilization twixt the two will only breed better products.

Regards... Sean.
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