Exactly, not only quote them but read the entire policy. Restrictions are put
on third-party viewers and their developers that are incompatible with GPL and
as such are violating the GPL licensing. Which by itself is a requirement of
the TPV to be compliant with. Chicken and egg :). Did LL really paid lawyers
for this (which they supposedly hired)?
----- Original Message -----
From: Harleen Gretzky
To: Boy Lane
Cc: Tayra Dagostino ; opensource-dev@lists.secondlife.com
Sent: Monday, March 22, 2010 12:19 AM
Subject: Re: [opensource-dev] Third party viewer policy: commencement date
They way I read it both these "violations" are specific to LL and their
service if you quote them entirely;
"You assume all risks, expenses, and defects of any Third-Party Viewers that
you use, develop, or distribute. Linden Lab shall not be responsible or liable
for any Third-Party Viewers."
"You acknowledge and agree that we may require you to stop using or
distributing a Third-Party Viewer for accessing Second Life if we determine
that there is a violation."
On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 11:29 AM, Boy Lane <boy.l...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Tayra, in all respect, but you need to read the policy before posting a
comment about it.
There are at least 2 major violations against GPL in TPV, independent if I
want to develop or use any 3rd party viewer to connect to SecondLife or not.
And I pointed them out in my previous mail.
"You [the developer] assume all risks, expenses, and defects of any
Third-Party Viewers that you use, develop, or distribute"
"You [the developer] acknowledge and agree that we may require you to stop
using or distributing a Third-Party Viewer"
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tayra Dagostino" <tayra.dagost...@gmail.com>
To: "Boy Lane" <boy.l...@yahoo.com>
Cc: <opensource-dev@lists.secondlife.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2010 11:28 PM
Subject: Re: [opensource-dev] Third party viewer policy: commencement date
> On Sun, 21 Mar 2010 23:05:29 +0800
> "Boy Lane" <boy.l...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Again, I completely agree with you. I can develop any viewer based on
>> the Linden sources and be GPL compliant.
>>
>> But, what I can not do it is to be compliant to GPL and TPV the same
>> time. As such the otherwise legitimate GPL
>> viewer will not be allowed to connect to the SecondLife grid. Which
>> makes the first attempt pointless.
>
> no.....
>
> you are a developer? you follow GPL and no other, nobody force you in
> other way
>
> you want your viewer listed in viewer directory of LL? your viewer
> should follow some rules
>
> the two sides must be masjed with a AND operator, you are putting TPV
> before GPL, is the opposite. TPV don't limit neither restrict neither
> violate GPL, why TPV is a bundle of rules about LL services.
>
> example: ICEWEASEL is gpl, but http stack follow IEEE standards, so
> Iceweasel broke GPL?
>
> you can develop your virewer looking only GPL, TPV don't touch your
> source code modification or ownership, TPV is "whatever" connecting LL
> grid, GPL or not.
>
> i don't understand your poiting against TPV vs GPL, is a unusefull and
> stupid battle like Cherry vs Potato...
>
> in which way your GPL capabilities should be broken if you complain to
> TPV? if a name restriction disallow your product to connect to LL grid
> mean GPL is broken? no, GPL still valid, your viewwer will connect
> other grids, you are totally free
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