On Thu, 19 Aug 2010 17:48:52 -0700, Ricky <kf6...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Either way, I still see it as of little use with objects I own or am
> the creator of!
> 
> As regards the order for objects for which I am neither creator nor
> owner I have no suggestion.  The current order might make sense.  Then
> again, Do I ever have permission to /Delete/ someone else's objects?
> Not so far as I know.  /Return/ would be the only available option,
> and then only if I have edit privs on the owner's goods, am in a group
> that allows me to return other's goods on the given parcel, or am the
> landowner.
> 
> This is starting to sound like it's time for a list:
> * I am Owner
> ** "Report Abuse" is deactivated (Doesn't make sense!)
> ** "Block" is active (I may want to mute my own objects after all!)
> ** "Return" is deactivated
> ** "Delete" is active
> * I am Creator but not Owner and I have no privileges granted
> ** "Report Abuse" is deactivated (NOTE)
> ** "Block" is active
> ** "Return" is deactivated
> ** "Delete" is deactivated
> * I have been either granted Edit on the Owner's goods, am a member of
> a group that the land is deeded to, the group I'm a part of has return
> privs, or I am the land owner:
> ** "Report Abuse" is active
> ** "Block" is active
> ** "Return" is active
> ** "Delete" is deactivated (Unless for some reason land owners can
> delete objects.... This I am unsure of.  Typically I've seen them
> return items.)
> * Otherwise (Not Creator, Not Owner, No Privs)
> ** "Report Abuse" is active
> ** "Block" is active
> ** "Return" is deactivated
> ** "Delete" is deactivated
> 
> (NOTE) There may be a use case here for "Report Abuse" to be active on
> an object I am the creator of, but not the owner: If the object is
> modifiable, it's parts may have been used to make something offensive.
>  I'd rather keep the option open in this case.
> 
> Order may be largely a preference, but I think that "Delete" should be
> topmost, if available as an option.  However this may create another
> usability issue if the order of items in the menu follows a logical,
> but seemingly random to beginners, order depending on context: A first
> timer would have difficulty knowing beforehand which item will be in
> what position in the menu.  So the order may need to be fixed, just
> having unusable elements grayed out and deactivated in certain
> contexts.

If our aim is to make the menu lighter, cleaner and simpler to 
read, especially for a newbie, I'd prefer to completely hide
those entries from the menu. Grayed and deactivated entries
are still being read and their meaning is processed by the 
brain, so it's only a partial semplification.

If the problem is only that one risks to return or abuse-report
her stuff, I find it to be a very small and low-priority problem, 
as both those features have a confirmation window.

Personally, I think Delete should be in a submenu and it should NOT
be easily available, as we want to avoid it being triggered by error.

Opensource Obscure
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