the only viewers on this computer are singularity and viewer-developments source code.
On Tue, 16 Aug 2011 12:12:13 -0700, Brian McGroarty wrote: > What were some of the viewers you tested on that account? Typically, > the trigger would have been within the last month. > > On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 12:07 PM, Erin Mallory wrote: > >> im just like wtf? the account i got hit by (which i sent the >> name of to oz) is still showing active... in search... but its one > i >> rarely use. mostly for hiding and/or testing stuff. Im hearing >> the same from other people too now though in other groups im > in... >> >> >>> Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 12:04:11 -0700 >> >>> From: mala...@tamzap.com [1] >>> To: opensource-dev@lists.secondlife.com [2] >> >>> Subject: Re: [opensource-dev] Unjust Banning of residents? >>> >>> I knew it couldnt be just a single event. There is something >> going on >>> at Linden Lab and honest developers are losing their accounts >> over it. >> > >>> On Tue, 16 Aug 2011 14:46:29 -0400, Erin Mallory wrote: >>> > I have been hit with this as well on one of my alts. >> interestingly, I >>> > have only ever logged that account in with v-d builds or >> firestorm. >> > > I've sent an abuse report asking for clarification. im about >> to >>> > contact support. >>> > >>> >> From: jess...@trinityenterprises.ca [3] >> > >> To: opensource-dev@lists.secondlife.com [4] >>> >> Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 14:41:56 -0400 >>> >> Subject: Re: [opensource-dev] Unjust Banning of residents? >> > >> >>> >> This is interesting as our support team has had reports of >> this >>> > from some of >>> >> our own users. We figured it was phishing and suggested said >> users >>> > contact >> > >> LL. I don't know the results however... >>> >> >>> >> Jessica Lyon >>> >> >>> >> -----Original Message----- >>> >> From: opensource-dev-boun...@lists.secondlife.com [5] >> > >> [mailto:opensource-dev-boun...@lists.secondlife.com [6]] On >> Behalf Of >>> >> mala...@tamzap.com [7] >> > >> Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 2:23 PM >>> >> To: Marine Kelley >>> >> Cc: opensource-dev@lists.secondlife.com [8] >> > >> Subject: Re: [opensource-dev] Unjust Banning of residents? >>> >> >>> >> I thought it was a phishing attempt as well. But the account >> has >>> > been >>> >> removed from second life. POOF. so unless some phisher has the >> > > ability >>> >> to terminate accounts this is as real as it gets. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> On Tue, 16 Aug 2011 20:21:48 +0200, Marine Kelley wrote: >>> >> > Careful, it could be a phishing attempt. Do NOT click on any >> of >> > > the >>> >> > links inside this email (unless you're certain it comes from >>> > Linden >>> >> > Lab, but then again emails can be spoofed). >>> >> > >>> >> > On 16/08/2011, mala...@tamzap.com [9] wrote: >> > >> >> exactly which is why this message is so disturbing. >> accounts >>> > have >>> >> >> been >>> >> >> terminated from second life for using a viewer not listed >> in the >> > >> >> directory. >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> "This email is notification that Linden Lab has terminated >>> >> >> your access to the Second Life virtual world due to severe >> > >> >> or repeated violations of the Second Life Terms of Service >>> >> >> or Community Standards. Your (account name >> 'xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx') >>> > and >>> >> >> alternate Second Life accounts have been >> > >> >> made permanently inaccessible." >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> On Tue, 16 Aug 2011 13:33:39 -0400, Erin Mallory wrote: >>> >> >>> Last I checked there is no requirement to use an approved >> tvp. >> > > even >>> >> >>> on the tvp listing page. Looking at the policy and the >>> > directory >>> >> >>> pages, no where does it say that the viewer must be listed >> in >>> > the >> > >> >>> tvp... >>> >> >>> http://secondlife.com/corporate/tpv.php [10] >>> >> >>> >> http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Third_Party_Viewer_Directory [11] >> > >> >>> >>> >> >>> "You may connect to Second Life using software released by >> a >>> >> >>> third-party developer. Linden Lab provides a Policy on >>> > Third-Party >> > >> >>> Viewers [1] to promote a positive and predictable >> experience >>> > for >>> >> >>> all >>> >> >>> Second Life Residents." >>> >> >>> >> > >> >>>> Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 10:23:21 -0700 >>> >> >>>> From: mala...@tamzap.com [12] >>> >> >>>> To: opensource-dev@lists.secondlife.com [13] >> > >> >>>> Subject: [opensource-dev] Unjust Banning of residents? >>> >> >>>> >>> >> >>>> Violation: Third Party Viewer Usage >>> >> >>>> You are connecting to the grid with a viewer that is not >> in >> > > the >>> >> >>> third >>> >> >>>> party viewer directory. >>> >> >>>> >>> >> >>>> >>> >> >>>> However... >> > >> >>>> >>> >> >>>> A viewer does not need to be on the Third Party Viewer >>> > Directory >>> >> >>>> in >>> >> >>>> order for development or usage of it to be compliant with >> the >> > >> >>>> Third >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>>> Party Viewer Policy (see Policy on Third-Party Viewers | >>> > Second >>> >> >>> Life) >>> >> >>>> and the Terms of Service. While I am sure you are well >> aware >> > > of >>> >> >>> this, it >>> >> >>>> can also be deduced through common sense that the open >> source >>> >> >>> program >>> >> >>>> (Snowstorm, Snowglobe, etc) would not be able to exist in >> an >> > >> >>> environment >>> >> >>>> where every personal compile had to be listed on the TPVD >>> > before >>> >> >>>> it >>> >> >>> >> > >> >>>> could even begin to undergo any form of live quality >> assurance >>> >> >>>> processes. >>> >> >>>> >>> >> >>>> Long story short, unless there have been recent changes >> to the >> > >> >>> Terms of >>> >> >>>> Service that I am unaware of, or if there are relevant >>> > sections >>> >> >>> that I >>> >> >>>> have missed that indicate that a viewer that complies >> with the >> > >> >>> Third >>> >> >>>> Party Viewer Policy still must be in the Directory to be >>> >> >>> legitimately >>> >> >>>> used, I would request that you provide me with them. >> > >> >>>> >>> >> >>>> What this means is every single BETA tester for every >> client >>> > on >>> >> >>>> the >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>>> TPVD is at risk of losing their accounts because that >> compiled >> > >> >>> version >>> >> >>>> of that client is not listed on the TPVD. Each and every >>> > Developer >>> >> >>> who >>> >> >>>> has worked so hard to help Linden Lab build their Client >> into >> > > what >>> >> >>> it is >>> >> >>>> is at risk of losing their accounts because each time >> they >>> >> >>> recompile the >>> >> >>>> source it isn't listed in the TPVD and is now considered >> a >> > >> >>> Violation of >>> >> >>>> some hidden TOS clause. >>> >> >>>> >>> >> >>>> >>> >> >>>> I am posting this to this forum because I wanted to get >> feed >> > > back >>> >> >>> from >>> >> >>>> the community. As I myself and a developer who has >> contributed >>> >> >>> patches >>> >> >>>> to various TPVD Clients and am now finding myself >> cautious to >> > > even >>> >> >>> use >>> >> >>>> these clients source codes to help them. I would like >>> >> >>>> clarification >>> >> >>> from >> > >> >>>> Linden Lab as well as other Developers on this new >> banning >>> > policy >>> >> >>> that >>> >> >>>> is requiring every compiled client that connects to >> second >> > > life to >>> >> >>> be >>> >> >>>> listed in the TPVD. >>> >> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>> >> >>>> Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: >> > >> >>>> http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev [14] >>> >> >>>> Please read the policies before posting to keep >> unmoderated >> > >> >>>> posting >>> >> >>> privileges >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> Links: >>> >> >>> ------ >>> >> >>> [1] http://secondlife.com/corporate/tpv.php [15] >> > >> >> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >>> >> >> Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: >>> >> >> http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev [16] >> > >> >> Please read the policies before posting to keep >> unmoderated >>> > posting >>> >> >> privileges >>> >> >> >>> >> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> > >> Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: >>> >> http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev [17] >>> >> Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated >> posting >> > >> privileges >>> >> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >>> >> Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: >>> >> http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev [18] >> > >> Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated >> posting >>> > privileges >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: >> > http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev [19] >>> Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated >> posting privileges >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: >> http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev [20] >> Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated >> posting privileges > > -- > Brian McGroarty | Linden Lab > Sent from my Newton MP2100 via acoustic coupler > > > Links: > ------ > [1] mailto:mala...@tamzap.com > [2] mailto:opensource-dev@lists.secondlife.com > [3] mailto:jess...@trinityenterprises.ca > [4] mailto:opensource-dev@lists.secondlife.com > [5] mailto:opensource-dev-boun...@lists.secondlife.com > [6] mailto:opensource-dev-boun...@lists.secondlife.com > [7] mailto:mala...@tamzap.com > [8] mailto:opensource-dev@lists.secondlife.com > [9] mailto:mala...@tamzap.com > [10] http://secondlife.com/corporate/tpv.php > [11] http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Third_Party_Viewer_Directory > [12] mailto:mala...@tamzap.com > [13] mailto:opensource-dev@lists.secondlife.com > [14] http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev > [15] http://secondlife.com/corporate/tpv.php > [16] http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev > [17] http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev > [18] http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev > [19] http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev > [20] http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev > [21] mailto:angel_of_crim...@hotmail.com _______________________________________________ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting privileges
