SSB does all appearance generation as a centralized service - meaning
your avatar's visual parameters, height, and baked textures are served
without needing the viewer to have downloaded and decoded the wearables.
That's why I'm starting to refer to it as server side appearance, not
server side baking. Height is determined when you calculate your agent's
appearance message which is now generated on the back end.

    Adding new wearable parameters is not without precedent - we've done it
before when we added alpha masks, tattoos, avatar physics, etc. The only
change should be a new parameter (id=11001) in the shape's parameter block.
This does not represent a major revision to the wearable or avatar format.

 -Nyx

On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 4:43 PM, Darien Caldwell
<darien.caldw...@gmail.com>wrote:

> Well, This is an interesting development. I only understood SSB to be
> handling the baking of textures. But it's centralizing the avatar's shape
> too? Or why does a change in height need to be routed through the back-end?
>
> Adding a new slider to the Avatar appearance is kind of unprecedented.
> Will LL be revving the Shape XML export format?
>
> https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Mesh/Avatar_Shape_XML_Format
>
>                        - Dari
>
> On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 1:20 PM, Nyx Linden <n...@lindenlab.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> https://bitbucket.org/lindenlab/sunshine-external/commits/108ae1ed56ea38426df239ef3247f57fb63d0806
>>
>> Added a new parameter to shapes to replace the viewer-side height offset.
>> Since it is stored in a wearable, the new back end can read and use the
>> value. Will send an email to third party devs later today to let them know
>> to pick up the patch.
>>
>> Marking SUN-38 as resolved.
>>
>>  -Nyx
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 11:46 PM, Ricky <kf6...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I know this thread has gotten completely OT, but I feel I should respond
>>> to the feeling of dissatisfaction.
>>>
>>> I contribute to help me.  I know that not everything I contribute will
>>> be accepted: see https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-25739 for one I
>>> created that I suspect that LL will never swallow, but that is already in
>>> Firestorm's LGPL codebase.  What I've come to understand, and I accept as I
>>> can see the logic behind it, is that open source is not the same as
>>> open decision making, nor is it the same as allowing others to make the
>>> decisions.  It simply means the code is available under a permissive
>>> license for others - including us - to review, comment on, modify, and
>>> compile for ourselves.  Let me re-iterate: open source is NOT community
>>> maintenance.  LL has never implied or pretended that they've set up
>>> a community maintenance program - and I think they'd have major problems if
>>> they tried.
>>>
>>> My L$2, and I will not continue in this topic on this thread.  If you
>>> wish to respond to me, please take it off-list.
>>>
>>> Ricky
>>> Cron Stardust
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 7:27 PM, Carlo Wood <ca...@alinoe.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 24 Feb 2013 20:09:19 +0100
>>>> Henri Beauchamp <sl...@free.fr> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > > I'm unable to comment on SUN issues (or even make them)
>>>> >
>>>> > Gotta love the new closed JIRA !... Way to go, LL...
>>>>
>>>> I was about to type "fuck you Linden Lab" in my previous post,
>>>> but assumed they might be assholes enough to then kick me
>>>> of this list... The phrase "way to go" is inventive. It would
>>>> never have occurred to me to use that in this context.
>>>>
>>>> This whole "open source" HAHAHA project is a pathetic, lame,
>>>> grrrrrrr - I want to SPIT on it. LL should be sued for fucking
>>>> CALLING this "open" in ANY way. I hate you.
>>>>
>>>> A REAL Open Source coder,
>>>> Carlo Wood <ca...@alinoe.com>
>>>>
>>>> PS I'd add a comment HERE regarding SUN-38, but I learned years
>>>>    ago already that LL doesn't listen to anyone. They are just
>>>>    going to give you the finger Henri (and everyone else in SL)
>>>>    but not going to fix this. I'm not even going to TRY add
>>>>    a (technical) comment. Seriously, why is ANYONE still HELPING
>>>>    them? Why doesn't everyone just leave this list, stop
>>>>    going to their meetings, and stop giving them patches? Are
>>>>    you all stupid or what?
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