The simple fact of the matter is.  If you do not sign a code contribution
agreement LL can NOT use your code.



On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 11:49 AM, Henri Beauchamp <sl...@free.fr> wrote:

> On Mon, 02 Feb 2015 13:05:20 -0500, Oz Linden (Scott Lawrence) wrote:
>
> > On 2015-01-31 07:53 , Henri Beauchamp wrote:
> > > Greetings,
> > >
> > > I know this should be posted in the JIRA, but apparently the comments
> in
> > > the existing issue (SUN-38) are not read or not taken into account by
> > > Lindens.
> > >
> > > Please, to any and all Linden(s) involved in AHH, do read this post for
> > > your own enlightement (and hopefully, a better and definitive solution
> > > for the SL community as a whole):
> > > http://sldev.free.fr/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=1494&p=6890#p6890
> > >
> > > Note that I'm beyond the point to care about whether this message will
> > > be taken into account or not (so it's perfectly useless to enter a
> > > sterile argument on this list about it). It's more like a bottled
> > > message I throw into the sea...
> >
> > I won't speculate on whether or not we would have decided to do it
> > differently had your suggestion actually been made when we were starting
> > work on this months ago; the factors affecting avatar height and avatar
> > vertical offset are quite complicated and it may or may not have been
> > the right thing to do. I will say that your input would certainly have
> > been considered had you been a part of the conversation at the time
> > rather than posting a note on our private forum well after the fact.
>
> Are you ***kidding*** me ????
>
> I have been attending quite a few Server group meetings with Nyx, and
> you even were there once (for sure) or twice (can't swear on it), when
> I spoke about the SUN-38 issue.
> You will find several agendas with my entry about SUN-38, in the Wiki:
>
> http://wiki.secondlife.com/w/index.php?title=Special%3ASearch&search=henri+sun-38&fulltext=Search
> Most of the corresponding transcripts are alas missing from the Wiki,
> but I *did* explain my solution in at least two of those meetings
> and I will point out one particular agenda, where I asked if SPEAKING
> with a Linden about SUN-38 and the possible solutions would be at all
> possible:
> http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Mesh/Archive/2013-04-29
>
> It's not my fault if you keep shrugging off every remark or proposal
> I make, or even refuse the dialog (in plain text, because I cannot
> articulate well enough English neither understand English spoken
> with the US American accent in real time).
> I will not even bother quoting the various emails I sent to
> *YOU*, Oz, and that you never replied (albeit about other subjects
> than SUN-38), but if you want them, I could dig in my backups...
>
> > Despite the fact that you refuse to contribute your code,
>
> Again you are reverting the roles here !!!!
>
> I never refused to contribute my code: it's GPL and always said
> that anyone (and yes, that includes *you* Lindens) could reuse it.
> Also, each time someone asked for permissionto make my code LGPL
> to be compatible with their own viewer, I always said "go for it !".
>
> What I refuse, however, is to sign a contribution agreement where
> I would have to give private data to perfect strangers residing
> in a foreign country that doesn't respect the privacy protection
> Law of *my* country (or of any other country for that purpose).
> You perfectly know this, for I explained it to you (and to Soft
> Linden, your predecessor) countless times in emails, even going
> down to give you pointers to paragraphs in the (English-
> translated even !) French Law "Informatique et Liberté".
>
> I am not the one refusing to contribute my code, YOU are the one(s)
> refusing to use my contributions because of stupid and pointless
> lawyer-induced bureaucracy. It is *YOUR* choice and *YOUR* refusal,
> not mine !!!
>
> > I'm happy to make sure that your input is considered if and when
> > you provide it in a timely way;
>
> I am the very initiator of the SUN-38 issue, and if you re-read the
> comments I made in it, my solution is exposed here as well (see
> the comment posted on 22/Jun/14 10:58 AM, in reply to the Firestorm
> team's proposal, i.e. QUITE in the TIMELY manner !!!).
>
> I ALWAYS gave pointers to major flaws and regressions, either in the
> form of a JIRA issue, or directly via emails (to YOU !!!). So,
> accusing me of not providing the info or not in a timely manner is
> quite INSULTING and a pure LIE from your part.
>
> > I hope that in the future you'll chose to engage more productively.
>
> I hope that in the future, you will actually read the JIRAs I initiate,
> the emails I send to you, the messages I post on the various boards and
> blogs you DO frequent as well as I do (Nalate's blog, to cite just one).
> I also hope that you will make the minimum effort to communicate in a
> way that a non-English speaking person such as myself can actually
> manage (Open Source meetings used to happen in CHAT and not in voice,
> when Soft Linden was still there... and I DID tell you in one of your
> first meetings that people like me COULDN'T attend your meetings because
> of the language barrier: I can find the log, if you wish...).
>
> Now, I would *much* more prefer a clever and fruitful collaboration
> to this sterile childish behaviour (ignoring me, then putting the
> fault on me for not participating. I think that in 8+ years of SLing,
> I *never stopped* participating !).
>
> A *pissed* off (BIG TIME !)...
>
> Henri.
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