Maybe the perspective of a newbie might be of some help--or maybe
not--but...
I discovered RIPE NCC from an article on the Open Source Initiative's
website, "The ultimate list of reactions to the Cyber Resilience Act
[1], which led me to a page on the European Commission's website [2].
I had to do a bit of hunting around to find out more about RIPE NCC and
the organization's open source activities (as I would expect), but a
quick search [3] led me right to the Open Source WG [4].
The information there must have been complete/relevant enough to entice
me to join. I will admit I had to do a bit more searching/investigating
to learn more about RIPE as the page and working group noted that the
list and WG were for the "RIPE community" and "open source projects
related to the RIPE community." So MAYBE if I was a bit more shy (or
considerate) I would not have joined as neither are exactly in line with
my area of work/development/interest, i.e., education technology, higher
education, research computing, etc. However as open source was the theme
and I am interested in learning and working more with folks in the EU, I
thought I would reach out.
Once I joined the list (easy to do), I introduced myself; which I feel
is the considerate thing to do, just so no one feels I am spying on them.
I was very happy to get a friendly reply from the WG chair that not only
welcomed me and introduced himself (and the list) but also included a
few topics of shared interest which sparked a few more exchanges. I felt
like the list was active and grateful for my participation.
So, if my experience is any indication, I think "on-boarding" went
pretty well.
If I were to offer any suggestions,
- I can understand how, if the reply is only to me, others might not
know (and therefore be concerned) if I received a reply. I can also
understand not wanting to pollute the list. Maybe create a generic reply
so the list members can see the new member was welcomed? I'd also
encourage others to say hello as well. Both Martin and Luka said Hi. I
assume there are three people active on the list!?
- The WG page *could* be a bit more descriptive so that those unfamiliar
with RIPE or the discussions could learn more. But this might be a never
ending quest, as I suspect there will always be additional information
that could help the next person. I did search the list archives [5]
before actually joining to try and determine if the discussions would
actually be of interest to me--and if my interests would be of interest
to you all. I am not sure if other potential members would do this.
I hope this helps,
Patrick
1.
https://blog.opensource.org/the-ultimate-list-of-reactions-to-the-cyber-resilience-act/
<https://blog.opensource.org/the-ultimate-list-of-reactions-to-the-cyber-resilience-act/>2.
https://ec.europa.eu/info/law/better-regulation/have-your-say/initiatives/13410-Cyber-resilience-act-new-cybersecurity-rules-for-digital-products-and-ancillary-services/F3376593_en
<https://ec.europa.eu/info/law/better-regulation/have-your-say/initiatives/13410-Cyber-resilience-act-new-cybersecurity-rules-for-digital-products-and-ancillary-services/F3376593_en>3.
https://www.google.com/search?q=%22RIPE+NCC%22+%22open+source%22_
<https://www.google.com/search?q=%22RIPE+NCC%22+%22open+source%22_>4.
https://www.ripe.net/community/wg/active-wg/os/
5. https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/opensource-wg/
On 2/13/24 12:25 PM, Martin Winter wrote:
Luka,
there isn't a clear structure and most of the Working Group Activity
is happening at the RIPE Meetings.
But in general, a long time ago I started the WG with the idea to have
better communication between Open Source Developers and Internet
Providers. Traditionally, we focus on Open Source Software focused in
the networking space, but there are no fixed rules on what is included
and what not. We tried to adjust a bit based on our personal
experience, background and feedback from the community here on the
list, during the meetings and privately.
If you go tohttps://www.ripe.net/community/wg/active-wg/os/, then you
see our charter (and some outdated examples of Open Source Projects).
Most of it is centered around the meetings and the presentations
there. (And there are some awesome presentation in the RIPE Archive to
watch)
(And if this is not clear: All the presentations can be watched live
through streaming during the meeting and are available afterwards in
the RIPE archive at
https://www.ripe.net/membership/meetings/ripe-meetings/archive/ )
Sometimes it's an update on some Open Source project, an Outlook to a
future version, discussion on funding or licensing, failed projects
(always great to learn from failures from others!), Community
building, Testing, etc. The list is not conclusive and we are open to
anything anyone can think would help an open source project for this
audience (we try to limit it a bit to Open Source in the network
space, but there are no clear guidelines and we are happy to discuss
how far this stretches. Also, we are only humans and some projects can
be used in interesting and unusual ways)
Here on the mailing list, similar topics are welcome. You will also
see discussion about potential events at other conferences or
discussion on some rules for conduct (as templates for projects).
So basically, the community is what we want it to be. So sorry, no
formal member guide.
Regards,
Martin Winter
Open Source WG Co-Chair
On Tue, Feb 13, 2024 at 12:13 PM Luka Perkov<luka.per...@bit.hr> wrote:
Hello Martin,
Thanks for sharing, I am still struggling to figure out how the
working group is exactly organized. Could you perhaps create a new
member guide so we can foster and grow the community further together?
Luka
On Mon, Feb 12, 2024 at 2:58 AM Martin Winter<mwin...@netdef.org> wrote:
Luka,
not all replies need to copy the whole list. I sent him some
information and hoped to have encouraged him enough to actually show
up at some future RIPE meeting. New members are always welcome and we
are happy to help, but CC'ing the whole list every time with the same
information is just noise in my view.
Regards,
Martin Winter
Open Source WG Co-Chair
On Sat, Feb 10, 2024 at 1:57 PM Luka Perkov via opensource-wg
<opensource-wg@ripe.net> wrote:
Hello Patrick,
It is a pleasure to have you here and we wish you a warm welcome!
Chairs, it would be much appreciated if you could also welcome the new
members and include any other noteworthy details so we can grow this
community and make the Internet a better place.
With best regards,
Luka Perkov
On Tue, Feb 6, 2024 at 11:59 PM Patrick Masson
<patrick.mas...@apereo.org> wrote:
Hello list,
I just discovered this list and thought I would send out an email to
introduce myself (https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrick-masson-apereo).
I am currently serving as the executive director at the Apereo
Foundation (https://www.apereo.org/), a US based non-profit working to
advance open source software in academic and research institutions.
Apereo has several projects and members (colleges and universities)
located in Europe and we commonly participate in a varsity of European
free and open source communities and events.
Looking forward to chatting with you all,
Patrick
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