On Thursday 04 February 2016 17:10:45 Kurt Roeckx via RT wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 04, 2016 at 10:10:06AM +0000, Moonchild via RT wrote:
> > Really?
> > 
> > That's all we get, a one-liner, no explanation, no rationale,
> > response? It's not even "brand new" functionality, Camellia as a
> > raw cipher is already in there, the only difference is wrapping it
> > into GCM-based suites. Patches are available, too.
> 
> I think the concerns are:
> - Nobody else seems to be using Camellia

over 40% of Alexa top 1 million TLS enabled servers enable Camellia

GnuTLS has implementation of Camellia-GCM for quite some time already

> - We don't have a constant time implementation of it

I don't see it mentioned anywhere in documentation, especially not in 
ciphers(1) man page. So, is it not so severe, or should the Camellia be 
removed from DEFAULT?

> - For processors that have AESNI, it's slower than AES

Irrelevant, nobody proposes to replace AES with Camellia

> - Adding more ciphers to the default list will just increase the
>   client hello and not change anything.
> 
> That being said, I don't think there should be a problem adding
> the support.  I'm just not sure about enabling it by default.

I don't think anyone argues that it needs to be added to DEFAULT.

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