Ted Mittelstaedt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What I still have not seen from the "pro-advertisement-clause-removal"
> camp is a logical explanation of why someone cannot use OpenSSL because of
> the so-called "advertising-clause"

        If someone is a development community, then no, there's no reason
why not. If someone is an end user, then there's lots of barriers that
throws up. Because of the political debate between the advertising clause
and the GPL license, end users are harmed by license barriers. I think the
freeradius-postgresql plugin was a classic example, hell, it's what got me
really interested in the problem in the first place. Freeradius is GPL.
Postgresql has a GPL compatible license. Postgresql is greatly enhanced by
linking against OpenSSL. By the strictest intepretation of both the OpenSSL
and GPL licenses, freeradius can't link against something that's linked
against OpenSSL. Who in this situation is so at fault that these useful
pieces of code can't live in harmony? Honestly, I don't care whose at fault,
I just want somebody to be willing to change a bit so this can be made
right. The freeradius people are talking about adding an OpenSSL exemption
to their gpl, and I think that's great, but I think a much wider benefit
will happen by changes to more ubiqutous licenses, the OpenSSL license
(since OpenSSL is so useful and so used by so many people), and the GPL (for
the same reason).

> Hey I have an idea.  Why doesen't the OpenSSL community tell the GPL to
> modify it's license to be compliant to the OpenSSL license?  That seems to
> be a mirror of what the GPL people are demanding.  What's sauce for the
> goose is sauce for the gander.

        I think the GPL should be changed too. What I'm hoping is that one
of the two camps will show themselves to be more progressive and less
obstructive, and the one that does so will solve more problems quicker by
letting us go on with our lives developing and using secure network apps.

                - Tyler

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