In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on Mon, 17 Apr 2006 17:02:49 -0700, "Ted 
Mittelstaedt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:

tedm> >Not at all, I spoke for myself (I do believe I said that
tedm> >clearly enough), and only reported what I have seen happening
tedm> >within the group.
tedm> 
tedm> Which isn't relevant unless it results in the license being
tedm> changed.

Uhmm, right...

tedm> > I am *not* speaking for anyone else in the group, that's
tedm> >entirely up to them.  And you know, considering the heat and
tedm> >the visciousness of this debate, I think they are the smarter
tedm> >when keeping away.
tedm> >
tedm> 
tedm> How do you know they are keeping away because of the heat?
tedm> Perhaps all of them are happy with it as-is right now.

Who said I know?  I wrote "I think".  Perhaps I should have written "I
believe" to be clearer.  Either way, I made an assumption, and it
might be incorrect.

tedm> But, the group consensus, represented by the license in the
tedm> code, is what the rest of the world has to deal with.  Not me,
tedm> not you, not what we want.  You started this issue of claiming I
tedm> wasn't speaking for OpenSSL and I responded by saying you wern't
tedm> either (in effect) and we are back to square one - which is that
tedm> the rest of the world needs to deal with the consensus of what
tedm> OpenSSL project is using.

The only difference is that I have an inside view that you don't, and
shared it here.

tedm> >tedm> What the GPL does is overlay the GPL over code that they
tedm> >tedm> use in their GPL projects.  The original license may
tedm> >tedm> remain but since the GPL is more restrictive, it becomes
tedm> >tedm> the defacto license.
tedm> >
tedm> >Not true.  If a GPLed project uses a piece of code with a
tedm> >different license, that piece of code keeps it and can be
tedm> >reused under that license, not the GPL.  That the GPL is used
tedm> >for the whole project and the rest of the files in the project
tedm> >is a non-issue.
tedm> 
tedm> For example if a Linux distribution takes the BSD telnet daemon
tedm> and puts it into a Linux distro - fast forward 20 years and the
tedm> original telnet daemon code is no longer available except in the
tedm> Linux distro - now how are you going to be able to take that
tedm> code?  You don't know if parts of that code have been modified
tedm> with GPL, if you take that daemon code and try using it under
tedm> it's original BSD licence you could be infringing.

If the license on that file remains unchanged, it means that
contributions to it are made under that license.  If they want to
contribute under a different license, they need to say so.  Usually,
that's done by putting their code in a different file.

Cheers,
Richard

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