Hi Jakob,

> Are you sure about those numbers?
Yes. See SP800-57 [1].

> I know that proponents of ECC cryptography have been roundly
> criticized for putting forward those specific numbers and for
> talking NIST into repeating them in their official publications.
Many of the folks I work with want the FIPs conformance - especially
for the sales literature. There's no way I can side step it,
regardless of how RSA Data Security feels about it

> proponents of the RSA and DH algorithms said that the
> number was wildly exaggerated and proposed some much
> smaller values.
I'm not willing to go out on a limb a recommend a smaller moduli (what
is RSA recommending, BTW?). I look at it this way: When DSS was
proposed, RSA Data Securities lobbied hard to get an RSA Signature
included. They can't win them all....

Jeff

[1] SP800-57, p63
(http://csrc.nist.gov/publications/nistpubs/800-57/sp800-57-Part1-revised2_Mar08-2007.pdf)

On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 10:16 AM, Jakob Bohm <jb-open...@wisemo.com> wrote:
> On 10-07-2010 20:13, Jeffrey Walton wrote:
>>>
>>> The general approach is to encrypt data using a symmetric cipher (e.g.,
>>> AES-256) with a randomly-generated key, and then encrypt that symmetric
>>> key
>>> with the RSA (public) key.
>>
>> AES-256 requires a RSA modulus with an equivalent strength, which is a
>> 15360 (IIRC). If you choose RSA-1024 or RSA-2048, you are off by
>> orders of magnitude.
>>
>
> Are you sure about those numbers?  I know that proponents of ECC
> cryptography have been roundly criticized for putting forward those
> specific numbers and for talking NIST into repeating them in their
> official publications.
>
> When the 15360 bit number was put forward as the RSA and DH key length
> needed to match the strength of 256 bit ECC keys, proponents of the RSA
> and DH algorithms said that the number was wildly exaggerated and
> proposed some much smaller values.  I don't know if the general crypto
> research community has since formed a consensus on what the real
> numbers are.
>
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