On 10/17/2013 04:54 PM, Dolph Mathews wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 10:31 AM, Thomas Goirand <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On 10/17/2013 09:11 PM, Monty Taylor wrote:
>>> I understand what you are saying and I also understand your frustration.
>>> However, OpenStack does not, as of yet, support SQLAlchemy 0.8, and as
>>> you can see, the requirements file does, in fact, communicate reality,
>>> we depend on <0.8.
>>
>> It does, at the exception of this little issue when running in Sid with
>> SQLite 3.
>>
>>> I support the bug being fixed and the requirement being raised, but it
>>> has to happen in that order.
>>
>> Sure!
>>
>>>> So yes, we need a fix for the above problem, and Nova needs to support
>>>> SQLAlchemy 0.8.2 which is what we have in Sid [1]. If I remember well,
>>>> there's also the problem on RPM based systems. BTW, it looks like it is
>>>> an isolated unique problem, and it seems to be the only one left in this
>>>> release of OpenStack. It is also new (Nova Havana B3 didn't have the
>>>> issue). So I really think it shouldn't be hard to fix the problem.
>>>>
>>>> Also, note that the issue isn't only in Debian, it's also a problem for
>>>> Ubuntu 2013.10, which also has SQLAlchemy 0.8.2. [2]
>>>
>>> Fascinating. What have they done to make that work?
>>
>> I'm not sure what you are talking about, since I don't agree that
>> OpenStack doesn't work with SQLAlchemy 0.8.2 (apart from this one bug).
> 
> This issue in sqlalchemy-migrate is a blocker (and probably just the
> first of several..) for adopting sqlalchemy >=0.8 in at least keystone
> & heat, AFAIK: 
> https://code.google.com/p/sqlalchemy-migrate/issues/detail?id=156

This is handled in the sqlalchemy-migrate fork which we're now
maintaining within openstack:
https://github.com/stackforge/sqlalchemy-migrate/commits/master
https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:stackforge/sqlalchemy-migrate,n,z

To reiterate, we've been patching these _small_ issues in Debian and
Fedora since version 19 (grizzly), and consolidating them upstream
so we can officially state sqlalchemy 0.8 is supported.
Sqlalchemy really only removed a few long deprecated things.

thanks,
Pádraig.

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