Just responding to the openstack-dev@ ML thread...

On 02/06/2017 11:37 AM, Steven Dake (stdake) wrote:
Jay,

I don’t see a reference to the wiki page in your email and don’t
immediately see the LCOO working group wiki. From what you describe this
working group is not working within the framework of the 4 opens which
is one of OpenStack’s fundamental philosophies.

wiki page is here:

https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/LCOO

Thanks for bringing up your questions; I hope someone that
represents
this group can at least get this working group operating within the 4
opens framework if they are not already.

A number of folks have responded on the openstack-operators@ ML thread. My bad for posting to both MLs.

The openstack-operators@ thread is here:

http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-operators/2017-February/012567.html

Please do use the -operators@ thread for continued discussion.

Best,
-jay

Regards -steve >

-----Original Message-----
From: Jay Pipes <jaypi...@gmail.com>
Reply-To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" 
<openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org>
Date: Thursday, February 2, 2017 at 1:14 PM
To: OpenStack Development Mailing List <openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org>, 
"openstack-operat...@lists.openstack.org" <openstack-operat...@lists.openstack.org>
Subject: [openstack-dev] Large Contributing OpenStack Operators working group?

    Hi,

    I was told about this group today. I have a few questions. Hopefully
    someone from this team can illuminate me with some answers.

    1) What is the purpose of this group? The wiki states that the team
    "aims to define the use cases and identify and prioritise the
    requirements which are needed to deploy, manage, and run services on top
    of OpenStack. This work includes identifying functional gaps, creating
    blueprints, submitting and reviewing patches to the relevant OpenStack
    projects, contributing to working those items, tracking their completion."

    What is the difference between the LCOO and the following existing
    working groups?

      * Large Deployment Team
      * Massively Distributed Team
      * Product Working Group
      * Telco/NFV Working Group

    2) According to the wiki page, only companies that are "Multi-Cloud
    Operator[s] and/or Network Service Provider[s]" are welcome in this
    team. Why is the team called "Large Contributing OpenStack Operators" if
    it's only for Telcos? Further, if this is truly only for Telcos, why
    isn't the Telco/NFV working group appropriate?

    3) Under the "Guiding principles" section of the above wiki, the top
    principle is "Align with the OpenStack Foundation". If this is the case,
    why did the group move its content to the closed Atlassian Confuence
    platform? Why does the group have a set of separate Slack channels
    instead of using the OpenStack mailing lists and IRC channels? Why is
    the OPNFV Jira used for tracking work items for the LCOO agenda?

    See https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Gluon/Tasks-Ocata for examples.

    4) I see a lot of agenda items around projects like Gluon, Craton,
    Watcher, and Blazar. I don't see any concrete ideas about talking with
    the developers of the key infrastructure services that OpenStack is
    built around. How does the LCOO plan on reaching out to the developers
    of the long-standing OpenStack projects like Nova, Neutron, Cinder, and
    Keystone to drive their shared agenda?

    Thanks for reading and (hopefully) answering.

    -jay

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