On Fri, May 19 2017, Mike Bayer wrote: > IMO that's a bug for them.
Of course it's a bug. IIRC Mehdi tried to fix it without much success. > I'm inspired to see that Keystone, Nova etc. are > able to move between and eventlet backend and a mod_wsgi backend. IMO > eventlet is really not needed for those services that present a REST > interface. > Although for a message queue with lots of long-running connections that > receive > events, that's a place where I *would* want to use a polling / non-blocking > model. But I'd use it explicitly, not with monkeypatching. +1 > I'd ask why not oslo.cotyledon but it seems there's a faction here that is > overall moving out of the Openstack umbrella in any case. Not oslo because it can be used by other projects than just OpenStack. And it's a condition of success. As Mehdi said, Oslo has been deserted in the recent cycles, so putting a lib there as very little chance of seeing its community and maintenance help grow. Whereas trying to reach the whole Python ecosystem is more likely to get traction. As a maintainer of SQLAlchemy I'm surprised you even suggest that. Or do you plan on doing oslo.sqlalchemy? ;) > Basically I think openstack should be getting off eventlet in a big way so I > guess my sentiment here is that the Gnocchi / Cotyledon /etc. faction is just > splitting off rather than serving as any kind of direction for the rest of > Openstack to start looking. But that's only an impression, maybe projects > will > use Cotyledon anyway. If every project goes off and uses something > completely > different though, then I think we're losing. The point of oslo was to > prevent > that. I understand your concern and opinion. I think you, me and Mehdi don't have the experience as contributors in OpenStack. I invite you to try moving any major OpenStack project to something like oslo.service2 or Cotyledon or to achieve any technical debt resolution in OpenStack to have a view on hard it is to tackle. Then you'll see where we stand. :) Especially when your job is not doing that, but e.g. working on Telemetry. :) -- Julien Danjou -- Free Software hacker -- https://julien.danjou.info
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