On 12/14/2017 05:55 AM, Ed Leafe wrote:
On Dec 13, 2017, at 4:38 PM, German Eichberger 
<german.eichber...@rackspace.com> wrote:

It looks like the implicit expectation is that devs also need to attend the 
Forums at the summit in addition to the PTG. The Forums, though important, 
hardly made it worthwhile for me to attend the summit (and in fact I skipped 
Sydney). On the other hand some devs got together and hashed out some plans for 
their projects. Personally, I feel the PTG is not working if we also have 
summits – and having two summits and one PTG will make things worse. Therefore 
I propose to scrap the PTG and add “design summits” back to the OpenStack 
summit. As a side effect this will be a better on-ramp for casual developers 
who can’t justify going to the PTG and ensure enough developers are on-hand to 
hear the operator’s feedback.

The original purpose of the summits were for the developers to get together to 
plan what they would work on for the next few months. Over time, the big money 
came pouring in, and they became huge marketing events, with developers pushed 
off to the fringes. The recent PTGs have been refreshing because they are more 
like the original events, where there is no distraction by the corporate 
marketing machines, and we can focus on getting shit done.

My question is: if we only have a release once a year, why do we need two 
Summits a year?

That's a very good question. I'd see the opposite: PTG twice a year with a Forum after each release. And loop operators into PTGs more.


-- Ed Leafe



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