On 10/05/18 16:52, Doug Hellmann wrote:
Excerpts from Zane Bitter's message of 2018-05-10 16:38:37 -0400:
On 17/04/18 05:24, Thierry Carrez wrote:
Hi everyone,

As you know the Technical Committee (the governance body representing
contributors producing OpenStack software) meets with other OpenStack
governance bodies (Board of Directors and User Committee) on the Sunday
before every Summit, and Vancouver will be no exception.

At the TC retrospective Forum session in Sydney we decided we should
more broadly ask our constituency for topics they would like us to cover
in that discussion.

Once the current election cycle is over and the new TC chair is picked,
we'll come up with a proposed agenda and submit it to the Chairman of
the Board for consideration.

So... Is there any specific topic you think we should cover in that
meeting ?

There's one topic I've been thinking about that I think would be
valuable to discuss with the Board and the UC. I don't know if we still
have time to add stuff to the agenda for Vancouver, but if not then
consider this my advance submission for Denver.

OpenStack was bootstrapped using a very powerful positive feedback loop:
in (very) broad-brush terms it started with a minimum viable product;
users for whom that was enough to entice them tried it out and offered
suggestions; vendors who wanted to sell to those users (as well as the
users themselves) implemented the suggestions; both groups joined the
Foundation, which marketed OpenStack to folks with similar needs.

Obviously that is a good thing, but it also comes with the danger of
getting trapped in a local maximum. Users for whom the product has not
yet met the threshold of minimum viability are generally not going to
show up, and their needs are no match for the feedback loop set up with
the users who _have_ shown up. (Specifically, we are arguably only just
now approaching the minimum viability point for the types of cloud-aware
applications that are routinely written against the APIs of the big 3
proprietary clouds.)

How can we avoid (or get out of) the local maximum trap and ensure that
OpenStack will meet the needs of all the users we want to serve, not
just those whose needs are similar to those of the users we already have?

Discuss.

thanks,
Zane.


This does feel like an excellent topic for one of these strategic
discussion sessions, but I think the agenda is already full for this
particular meeting. Maybe we can discuss it within the TC between now
and Denver so we have a good way to frame the question and discussion at
that meeting?

+1. As usual I've been struggling to find a good balance between being too abstract and too specific, so I'd appreciate help in framing the question to avoid sending the discussion directly into the weeds. cdent already had a good suggestion on IRC.

cheers,
Zane.

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