Fox, Kevin M wrote:
[...]
Part of the disconnect to me has been that these questions have been left up to
the projects by and large. But, users don't use the projects. Users use
OpenStack. Or, moving forward, they at least use a Constellation. But
Constellation is still just a documentation construct. Not really a first class
entity.
Currently the isolation between the Projects and the thing that the users use, the
Constellation allows for user needs to easily slip through the cracks. Cause
"Project X: we agree that is a problem, but its Y projects problem. Project Y: we
agree that is a problem, but its X projects problem." No, seriously, its OpenStacks
problem. Most of the major issues I've hit in my many years of using OpenStack were in
that category. And there wasn't a good forum for addressing them.
A related effect of the isolation is also that the projects don't work on the
commons nor look around too much what others are doing. Either within OpenStack
or outside. They solve problems at the project level and say, look, I've solved
it, but don't look at what happens when all the projects do that independently
and push more work to the users. The end result of this lack of Leadership is
more work for the users compared to competitors.
[...]
+1
Slicing development along component lines ("project teams") was a useful
construct to absorb all the energy that was sent to OpenStack between
2011 and 2016. But at our current stage (less resources, more users) I
agree that that structure is no longer optimal.
I think we need to start thinking about ways to de-emphasize project
teams (organizing work around code boundaries) and organize work around
goals instead (across code boundaries). A bit like work in Kubernetes is
tracked at SIG level, beyond code ownership. It's not an easy change,
with project teams being so integral to our culture, but it is something
we should start looking into.
--
Thierry Carrez (ttx)
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