On Tue, Oct 30, 2018, at 10:42 AM, Alex Schultz wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 11:36 AM Ben Nemec <openst...@nemebean.com> wrote:
> >
> > Tagging with tripleo since my suggestion below is specific to that project.
> >
> > On 10/30/18 11:03 AM, Clark Boylan wrote:
> > > Hello everyone,
> > >
> > > A little while back I sent email explaining how the gate queues work and 
> > > how fixing bugs helps us test and merge more code. All of this still is 
> > > still true and we should keep pushing to improve our testing to avoid 
> > > gate resets.
> > >
> > > Last week we migrated Zuul and Nodepool to a new Zookeeper cluster. In 
> > > the process of doing this we had to restart Zuul which brought in a new 
> > > logging feature that exposes node resource usage by jobs. Using this data 
> > > I've been able to generate some report information on where our node 
> > > demand is going. This change [0] produces this report [1].
> > >
> > > As with optimizing software we want to identify which changes will have 
> > > the biggest impact and to be able to measure whether or not changes have 
> > > had an impact once we have made them. Hopefully this information is a 
> > > start at doing that. Currently we can only look back to the point Zuul 
> > > was restarted, but we have a thirty day log rotation for this service and 
> > > should be able to look at a month's worth of data going forward.
> > >
> > > Looking at the data you might notice that Tripleo is using many more node 
> > > resources than our other projects. They are aware of this and have a plan 
> > > [2] to reduce their resource consumption. We'll likely be using this 
> > > report generator to check progress of this plan over time.
> >
> > I know at one point we had discussed reducing the concurrency of the
> > tripleo gate to help with this. Since tripleo is still using >50% of the
> > resources it seems like maybe we should revisit that, at least for the
> > short-term until the more major changes can be made? Looking through the
> > merge history for tripleo projects I don't see a lot of cases (any, in
> > fact) where more than a dozen patches made it through anyway*, so I
> > suspect it wouldn't have a significant impact on gate throughput, but it
> > would free up quite a few nodes for other uses.
> >
> It's the failures in gate and resets.  At this point I think it would
> be a good idea to turn down the concurrency of the tripleo queue in
> the gate if possible. As of late it's been timeouts but we've been
> unable to track down why it's timing out specifically.  I personally
> have a feeling it's the container download times since we do not have
> a local registry available and are only able to leverage the mirrors
> for some levels of caching. Unfortunately we don't get the best
> information about this out of docker (or the mirrors) and it's really
> hard to determine what exactly makes things run a bit slower.

We actually tried this not too long ago 
 but decided to revert it because it didn't decrease the check queue backlog 
significantly. We were still running at several hours behind most of the time.

If we want to set up better monitoring and measuring and try it again we can do 
that. But we probably want to measure queue sizes with and without the change 
like that to better understand if it helps.

As for container image download times can we quantify that via docker logs? 
Basically sum up the amount of time spent by a job downloading images so that 
we can see what the impact is but also measure if changes improve that? As for 
other ideas improving things seems like many of the images that tripleo use are 
quite large. I recall seeing a > 600MB image just for rsyslog. Wouldn't it be 
advantageous for both the gate and tripleo in the real world to trim the size 
of those images (which should improve download times). In any case quantifying 
the size of the downloads and trimming those if possible is likely also 


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