On Mon, Nov 5, 2018 at 12:50 PM Dmitry Tantsur <dtant...@redhat.com> wrote:
> > > On Mon, Nov 5, 2018, 20:07 Julia Kreger <juliaashleykre...@gmail.com > wrote: > >> *removes all of the hats* >> >> *removes years of dust from unrelated event planning hat, and puts it on >> for a moment* >> >> In my experience, events of any nature where convention venue space is >> involved, are essentially set in stone before being publicly advertised as >> contracts are put in place for hotel room booking blocks as well as the >> convention venue space. These spaces are also typically in a relatively >> high demand limiting the access and available times to schedule. Often >> venues also give preference (and sometimes even better group discounts) to >> repeat events as they are typically a known entity and will have somewhat >> known needs so the venue and hotel(s) can staff appropriately. >> >> tl;dr, I personally wouldn't expect any changes to be possible at this >> point. >> >> *removes event planning hat of past life, puts personal scheduling hat on* >> >> I imagine that as a community, it is near impossible to schedule >> something avoiding holidays for everyone in the community. >> > > I'm not taking about everyone. And I'm mostly fine with my holiday, but > the conflicts with Russia and Japan seem huge. This certainly does not help > our effort to engage people outside of NA/EU. > > Quick googling suggests that the week of May 13th would have much fewer > conflicts. > > May is also a fairly popular month for weddings... and I've seen wedding parties book out whole floors of hotel rooms. This complicates room block negotiations sadly. > >> I personally have lost count of the number of holidays and special days >> that I've spent on business trips over the past four years. While I may be >> an out-lier in my feelings on this subject, I'm not upset, annoyed, or even >> bitter about lost times. This community is part of my family. >> > > Sure :) > > But outside of our small nice circle there is a huge world of people who > may not share our feeling and the level of commitment to openstack. These > occasional contributors we talked about when discussing the cycle length. I > don't think asking them to abandon 3-5 days of holidays is a productive way > to engage them. > > And again, as much as I love meeting you all, I think we're outgrowing the > format of these meetings.. > > Dmitry > > It is funny you mention this because I was wondering something similar, but possibly for different reasons. I get there needs to be a marketing aspect to aid in sales and visibility. We need to also work on our local visibilities and broadcast out what individual projects and the community is doing on a smaller, more local scale... but I feel very conflicted with air travel and the state of atmospheric carbon levels. I wouldn't call my perception outgrowing, but perhaps growing more ecologically sensitive.
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