On Fri, 2014-01-17 at 17:03 +0000, Andrew Hutchings wrote: > On 17 Jan 2014, at 16:10, Jay Pipes <jaypi...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Fri, 2014-01-17 at 14:34 +0100, Thomas Herve wrote: > >> Hi all, > >> > >> I've been looking at Neutron default LBaaS provider using haproxy, and > >> while it's working nicely, it seems to have several shortcomings in terms > >> of scalability and high availability. The Libra project seems to offer a > >> more robust alternative, at least for scaling. The haproxy implementation > >> in Neutron seems to continue to evolve (like with > >> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/lbaas-ha-haproxy), but I'm > >> wondering why we can't leverage Libra. The APIs are a bit different, but > >> the goals look very similar, and there is a waste of effort with 2 > >> different implementations. Maybe we could see a Libra driver for Neutron > >> LBaaS for example? > > > > Yep, it's a completely duplicative and wasteful effort. > > > > It would be great for Libra developers to contribute to Neutron LBaaS. > > Hi Jay and Thomas, > > I am the outgoing technical lead of Libra for HP. But will reply whilst the > new technical lead (Marc Pilon) gets subscribed to this.
:( I had no idea, Andrew! > I would go as far as duplicative or wasteful. Libra existed before Neutron > LBaaS and is originally based on the Atlas API specifications. Neutron LBaaS > has started duplicating some of our features recently which we find quite > flattering. I presume you meant you would *not* go as far as duplicative or wasteful :) So, please don't take this the wrong way... but does anyone other than HP run Libra? Likewise, does anyone other than Rackspace run Atlas? I find it a little difficult to comprehend why, if Libra preceded work on Neutron LBaaS, that it wasn't used as the basis of Neutron's LBaaS work. I can understand this for Atlas, since it's Java, but Libra is Python code... so it's even more confusing to me. Granted, I don't know the history of Neutron LBaaS, but it just seems to be that this particular area (LBaaS) has such blatantly overlapping codebases with separate contributor teams. Just baffling really. Any background or history you can give me (however opinionated!) would be very much appreciated :) > After the 5.x release of Libra has been stabilised we will be working towards > integration with Neutron. It is a very important thing on our roadmap and we > are already working with 2 other large companies in Openstack to figure that > piece out. Which large OpenStack companies? Are these companies currently deploying Libra? Thanks, -jay > If anyone else wants to get involved or just wants to play with Libra I’m > sure the HP team would be happy to hear about it and help where they can. > > Hope this helps > > Kind Regards > Andrew > _______________________________________________ > OpenStack-dev mailing list > OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev _______________________________________________ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev