>From what I understand, the intended projects for the incubator can't operate without neutron because they are just extensions/plugins/drivers.
For example, if the DVR modifications to the reference reference L3 plugin weren't already being developed in the tree, DVR could have been developed in the incubator and then merged into Neutron once the bugs were ironed out so a huge string of Gerrit patches didn't need to be tracked. If that had happened, would it make sense to keep the L3 plugin as a completely separate project or merge it? I understand this is the approach the load balancer folks took by making Octavia a separate project, but I think it can still operate on its own, where the reference L3 plugin (and many of the other incubator projects) are just classes that expect to be able to make core Neutron calls.
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