Kyle,

I am confused. So basically you (and Mark) are saying:

1) We deprecate Neutron LBaaS v1
2) We spin out Neutron LBaaS v2 into it's own project in stackforge
3) Users don't have an OpenStack LBaaS any longer until we graduate from 
OpenStack incubation (as opposed Neutron incubation)

I am hoping you can clarify how this will be shaping up - 

Thanks,
German


-----Original Message-----
From: Kyle Mestery [mailto:mest...@mestery.com] 
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2014 6:48 PM
To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)
Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron][lbaas][octavia]

On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 5:55 PM, Kevin Benton <blak...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I think we need some clarification here too about the difference 
> between the general OpenStack Incubation and the Neutron incubation. 
> From my understanding, the Neutron incubation isn't the path to a 
> separate project and independence from Neutron. It's a process to get 
> into Neutron. So if you want to keep it as a separate project with its 
> own cores and a PTL, Neutron incubation would not be the way to go.

That's not true, there are 3 ways out of incubation: 1) The project withers and 
dies on it's own. 2) The project is spun back into Neutron. 3) The project is 
spun out into it's own project.

However, it's worth noting that if the project is spun out into it's own 
entity, it would have to go through incubation to become a fully functioning 
OpenStack project of it's own.

>
>
> On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 3:04 PM, Susanne Balle <sleipnir...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> Just for us to learn about the incubator status, here are some of the 
>> info on incubation:
>>
>> https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Governance/Approved/Incubation
>> https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Governance/NewProjects
>>
>> Susanne
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 5:57 PM, Susanne Balle 
>> <sleipnir...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>>  I would like to discuss the pros and cons of putting Octavia into 
>>> the Neutron LBaaS incubator project right away. If it is going to be 
>>> the reference implementation for LBaaS v 2 then I believe Octavia 
>>> belong in Neutron LBaaS v2 incubator.
>>>
>>> The Pros:
>>> * Octavia is in Openstack incubation right away along with the lbaas 
>>> v2 code. We do not have to apply for incubation later on.
>>> * As incubation project we have our own core and should be able ot 
>>> commit our code
>>> * We are starting out as an OpenStack incubated project
>>>
>>> The Cons:
>>> * Not sure of the velocity of the project
>>> * Incubation not well defined.
>>>
>>> If Octavia starts as a standalone stackforge project we are assuming 
>>> that it would be looked favorable on when time is to move it into 
>>> incubated status.
>>>
>>> Susanne
>>>
>>>
>>
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