On Sep 3, 2014, at 11:37 AM, Joe Gordon <joe.gord...@gmail.com> wrote:
> As you all know, there has recently been several very active discussions > around how to improve assorted aspects of our development process. One idea > that was brought up is to come up with a list of cycle goals/project > priorities for Kilo [0]. > > To that end, I would like to propose an exercise as discussed in the TC > meeting yesterday [1]: > Have anyone interested (especially TC members) come up with a list of what > they think the project wide Kilo cycle goals should be and post them on this > thread by end of day Wednesday, September 10th. After which time we can begin > discussing the results. > The goal of this exercise is to help us see if our individual world views > align with the greater community, and to get the ball rolling on a larger > discussion of where as a project we should be focusing more time. Thanks for starting this discussion, Joe. It’s important for us to start working on “OpenStack” as a whole, in addition to our individual projects. 1. Sean has done a lot of analysis and started a spec on standardizing logging guidelines where he is gathering input from developers, deployers, and operators [1]. Because it is far enough for us to see real progress, it’s a good place for us to start experimenting with how to drive cross-project initiatives involving code and policy changes from outside of a single project. We have a couple of potentially related specs in Oslo as part of the oslo.log graduation work [2] [3], but I think most of the work will be within the applications. [1] https://review.openstack.org/#/c/91446/ [2] https://blueprints.launchpad.net/oslo.log/+spec/app-agnostic-logging-parameters [3] https://blueprints.launchpad.net/oslo.log/+spec/remove-context-adapter 2. A longer-term topic is standardizing our notification content and format. See the thread "Treating notifications as a contract” for details. We could set a goal for Kilo of establishing the requirements and proposing a spec, with implementation to begin in L. 3. Another long-term topic is standardizing our APIs so that we use consistent terminology and formatting (I think we have at least 3 forms of errors returned now?). I’m not sure we have anyone ready to drive this, yet, so I don’t think it’s something to consider for Kilo. 4. I would also like to see the unified SDK and command line client projects continued (or resumed, I haven’t been following the SDK work closely). Both of those projects will eventually make using OpenStack clouds easier. It would be nice to see some movement towards a “user tools” program to encompass both of these projects, perhaps with an eye on incubation at the end of Kilo. 5. And we should also be considering the Python 3 porting work. We’ve made some progress with the Oslo libraries, with oslo.messaging & eventlet still our main blocker. We need to put together a more concrete plan to finish that work and for tackling applications, as well as a team willing to help projects through their transition. This is very long term, but does need attention, and I think it’s reasonable to ask for a plan by the end of Kilo. From a practical standpoint, we do need to work out details like where we make decisions about the plans for these projects once the general idea is approved. We’ve done some of this in the Oslo project in the past (log translations, for example) but I don’t think that’s the right place for projects at this scale. A new openstack-specs repository would give us a place to work on them, but we need to answer the question of how to decide what is approved. Doug > > > best, > Joe Gordon > > [0] http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-August/041929.html > [1] > http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tc/2014/tc.2014-09-02-20.04.log.html > _______________________________________________ > OpenStack-dev mailing list > OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
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