I think bug days are a good idea. We've had them sporadically in the
past, but never weekly. We stopped mostly because people stopped
showing up.

If we think we have critical mass again, or if it makes more sense to
run one during the RC period, then let's do it.

So... Who would show up for a bug day if we ran one?


On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 6:12 PM, Daniel P. Berrange <berra...@redhat.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 07:30:26AM +1000, Michael Still wrote:
>> On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 12:30 AM, Russell Bryant <rbry...@redhat.com> wrote:
>> > On 09/15/2014 05:42 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote:
>> >> On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 07:07:13AM +1000, Michael Still wrote:
>> >>> Just an observation from the last week or so...
>> >>>
>> >>> The biggest problem nova faces at the moment isn't code review latency. 
>> >>> Our
>> >>> biggest problem is failing to fix our bugs so that the gate is reliable.
>> >>> The number of rechecks we've done in the last week to try and land code 
>> >>> is
>> >>> truly startling.
>> >>
>> >> I consider both problems to be pretty much equally as important. I don't
>> >> think solving review latency or test reliabilty in isolation is enough to
>> >> save Nova. We need to tackle both problems as a priority. I tried to avoid
>> >> getting into my concerns about testing in my mail on review team 
>> >> bottlenecks
>> >> since I think we should address the problems independantly / in parallel.
>> >
>> > Agreed with this.  I don't think we can afford to ignore either one of 
>> > them.
>> Yes, that was my point. I don't mind us debating how to rearrange
>> hypervisor drivers. However, if we think that will solve all our
>> problems we are confused.
>> So, how do we get people to start taking bugs / gate failures more
>> seriously?
> I think we should have formal "Bug squash wednesdays"  (or pick another
> day). By this I mean that the core reviewers will focus their attention
> on just reviews that are related to bug fixing. They will also try to
> work on bugs if they have time and encourage everyone else involved in
> Nova todo the same. We'd have a team of people in the Nova IRC channel
> to publicise & co-ordinate bug squashing, perhaps  with a list of top
> 20 bugs we want to attack this week. I wouldn't focus just on gate bugs
> here since many a pretty darn hard & so would put off many people. Have
> a mix of bugs of varying difficulties to point people to. Make this a
> regular fortnightly or even weekly event which we publicise in advance
> on mailing lists, etc.
> Regards,
> Daniel
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