On Mon, Oct 06, 2014, Ihar Hrachyshka <ihrac...@redhat.com> wrote: > Maybe it is indeed wasteful, I don't have numbers; though the fact is > we don't allow any migrations for databases with any non utf8 tables > as of . The code was copied in multiple projects (Nova, Glance > among other things). Also, the same check is present in oslo.db that > is used by most projects now. > > Also we have migration rules in multiple projects that end up with > converting all tables to utf8. F.e. it's done in Nova . > > So we already run against utf8 tables. Though we don't ever tell users > to create their databases with utf8 as default charset, opening a can > of worms. We also don't ever tell users to at least set use_unicode=0 > when running against MySQLdb (which is the default and the only > supported MySQL driver as of Juno) to avoid significant performance > drop  (same is true for oursql driver, but that one is at least not > recommended to users thru official docs).
This is a situation where Openstack is frustratingly inconsistent. While we don't provide any guidance about the default charset, Nova now creates all tables with the utf8 charset and provided a migration to fix deployments done before this change. The same cannot be said for Glance. It inherited the utf8 check, but never provided a migration to fix deployments done before this change. It still creates tables with no default charset leading to a situation where you can deploy Glance with default values but then end up not being able to run any future migrations. Glance did have a flag to disable that check, but it was recently removed with no automated migrations to resolve earlier deployments (like many of ours). This frustratingly got approved and merged after my -1 and with no explanation why they were doing this to operators. It felt like I was getting the gerrit equivalent of a middle finger. All of that said, I'm 100% for making all of the projects more consistent and use utf8 (where it makes sense). : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/3946/ : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/120002/ JE _______________________________________________ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStackfirstname.lastname@example.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev