On Dec 11, 2014, at 8:00 AM, Henry Gessau <ges...@cisco.com> wrote:

> On Thu, Dec 11, 2014, Mark McClain <m...@mcclain.xyz> wrote:
>> 
>>> On Dec 11, 2014, at 8:43 AM, Jay Pipes <jaypi...@gmail.com
>>> <mailto:jaypi...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I'm generally in favor of making name attributes opaque, utf-8 strings that
>>> are entirely user-defined and have no constraints on them. I consider the
>>> name to be just a tag that the user places on some resource. It is the
>>> resource's ID that is unique.
>>> 
>>> I do realize that Nova takes a different approach to *some* resources,
>>> including the security group name.
>>> 
>>> End of the day, it's probably just a personal preference whether names
>>> should be unique to a tenant/user or not.
>>> 
>>> Maru had asked me my opinion on whether names should be unique and I
>>> answered my personal opinion that no, they should not be, and if Neutron
>>> needed to ensure that there was one and only one default security group for
>>> a tenant, that a way to accomplish such a thing in a race-free way, without
>>> use of SELECT FOR UPDATE, was to use the approach I put into the pastebin on
>>> the review above.
>>> 
>> 
>> I agree with Jay.  We should not care about how a user names the resource.
>> There other ways to prevent this race and Jay’s suggestion is a good one.
> 
> However we should open a bug against Horizon because the user experience there
> is terrible with duplicate security group names.

The reason security group names are unique is that the ec2 api supports source
rule specifications by tenant_id (user_id in amazon) and name, so not enforcing
uniqueness means that invocation in the ec2 api will either fail or be
non-deterministic in some way.

Vish


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