On 11 March 2015 at 05:29, Russell Bryant <rbry...@redhat.com> wrote: > The TC is in the middle of implementing a fairly significant change in > project governance. You can find an overview from Thierry on the > OpenStack blog [1]. > > Part of the change is to recognize more projects as being part of the > OpenStack community. Another critical part was replacing the integrated > release with a set of tags. A project would be given a tag if it meets > some defined set of criteria. > > I feel that we're at a very vulnerable part of this transition. We've > abolished the incubation process and integrated release. We've > established a fairly low bar for new projects [2]. However, we have not > yet approved *any* tags other than the one that reflects which projects > are included in the final integrated release (Kilo) [3]. Despite the > previously discussed challenges with the integrated release, > it did at least mean that a project has met a very useful set of > criteria [4]. > > We now have several new project proposals. However, I propose not > approving any new projects until we have a tagging system that is at > least far enough along to represent the set of criteria that we used to > apply to all OpenStack projects (with exception for ones we want to > consciously drop). Otherwise, I think it's a significant setback to our > project governance as we have yet to provide any useful way to navigate > the growing set of projects. > > The resulting set of tags doesn't have to be focused on replicating our > previous set of criteria. The focus must be on what information is > needed by various groups of consumers and tags are a mechanism to > implement that. In any case, we're far from that point because today we > have nothing. > > I can't think of any good reason to rush into approving projects in the > short term. If we're not able to work out this rich tagging system in a > reasonable amount of time, then maybe the whole approach is broken and > we need to rethink the whole approach.
I think this is kindof missing the point of the new governance system: the bar for entry has been replaced with a bar for getting certain tags - holding back entrants because we don't have enough tags to answer all the questions we could before doesn't make anything better - we know we weren't really answering the questions folk cared about before (thats why we've revamped the governance system at all). If I understand your particular concern, its that if more projects are added folk will be more confused about what is safe or sane to deploy : I think that is a risk, but not a big one, because what was safe or sane to deploy before was already quite fuzzy. See e.g. Neutron only a couple of releases back :). -Rob -- Robert Collins <rbtcoll...@hp.com> Distinguished Technologist HP Converged Cloud __________________________________________________________________________ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
