Excerpts from Robert Collins's message of 2015-04-07 10:43:30 +1200:
> On 7 April 2015 at 05:11, Joe Gordon <joe.gord...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 8:39 AM, Dolph Mathews <dolph.math...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 10:26 AM, Boris Pavlovic <bo...@pavlovic.me> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Jay,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Not far, IMHO. 100ms difference in startup time isn't something we
> >>>> should spend much time optimizing. There's bigger fish to fry.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I agree that priority of this task shouldn't be critical or even high,
> >>> and that there are other places that can be improved in OpenStack.
> >>>
> >>> In other hand this one is as well big source of UX issues that we have in
> >>> OpenStack..
> >>>
> >>> For example:
> >>>
> >>> 1) You would like to run some command X times where X is pretty big
> >>> (admins likes to do this via bash loops). If you can execute all of them 
> >>> for
> >>> 1 and not 10 minutes you will get happier end user.
> >>
> >>
> >> +1 I'm fully in support of this effort. Shaving 100ms off the startup time
> >> of a frequently used library means that you'll save that 100ms over and
> >> over, adding up to a huge win.
> >>
> >
> >
> > Another data point on how slow our libraries/CLIs can be:
> >
> > $ time openstack -h
> > <snip>
> > real    0m2.491s
> > user    0m2.378s
> > sys     0m0.111s
> 
> 
> pbr should be snappy - taking 100ms to get the version is wrong.

I have always considered pbr a packaging/installation time tool, and not
something that would be used at runtime. Why are we using pbr to get the
version of an installed package, instead of asking pkg_resources?

Doug

> 
> -Rob
> 

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