On 9/17/2015 1:43 PM, Sylvain Bauza wrote:
Le 17/09/2015 19:26, Kevin Benton a écrit :
Maybe it would be a good idea to switch to 23:59 AOE deadlines like
many paper submissions use for academic conferences. That way there is
never a need to convert TZs, you just get it in by the end of the day
in your own time zone.
IMHO, the current process leaves enough time for proposing a candidacy,
given that it's first advertised by beginning of the cycle on the main
Release schedule wiki page (eg. for Liberty [1]) and then officially
announced 8 days before the deadline. We also know that PTL elections
come around 6 weeks before the Summit every cycle. One last official
annoucement is made 1 day before the deadline.
Trying to target the very last moment for providing a candidacy just
seems risky to me in that condition and we should really propose to the
candidates to not wait for the last minute and propose far eariler.
Heh, yeah, +1. If running for PTL is something you had in mind to begin
with, you should probably be looking forward to when the elections start
and get your ducks in a row. Part of being PTL, a large part I'd think,
is the ability to organize and manage things. If you're waiting until
the 11th hour to do this, I wouldn't have much sympathy.
-Sylvain
[1]
https://wiki.openstack.org/w/index.php?title=Liberty_Release_Schedule&oldid=78501
On Sep 17, 2015 9:18 AM, "Edgar Magana" <edgar.mag...@workday.com
<mailto:edgar.mag...@workday.com>> wrote:
Folks,
Last year I found myself in the same position when I missed a
deadline because my wrong planning and time zones nightmare!
However, the rules were very clear and I assumed my mistake. So,
we should assume that we do not have candidates and follow the
already described process. However, this should be very easy to
figure out for the TC, it is just a matter to find our who is
interested in the PTL role and consulting with the core team of
that specific project.
Just my two cents…
Edgar
From: Kyle Mestery
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Date: Thursday, September 17, 2015 at 8:48 AM
To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)"
Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [all][elections] PTL nomination
period is now over
On Thu, Sep 17, 2015 at 10:26 AM, Monty Taylor
<mord...@inaugust.com <mailto:mord...@inaugust.com>> wrote:
On 09/17/2015 04:50 PM, Anita Kuno wrote:
On 09/17/2015 08:22 AM, Matt Riedemann wrote:
On 9/17/2015 8:25 AM, Tristan Cacqueray wrote:
PTL Nomination is now over. The official candidate
list is available on
the wiki[0].
There are 5 projects without candidates, so
according to this
resolution[1], the TC we'll have to appoint a new
PTL for Barbican,
MagnetoDB, Magnum, Murano and Security
This is devil's advocate, but why does a project
technically need a PTL?
Just so that there can be a contact point for
cross-project things,
i.e. a lightning rod? There are projects that do a
lot of group
leadership/delegation/etc, so it doesn't seem that a
PTL is technically
required in all cases.
I think that is a great question for the TC to consider
when they
evaluate options for action with these projects.
The election officials are fulfilling their obligation
according to the
resolution:
http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/governance/tree/resolutions/20141128-elections-process-for-leaderless-programs.rst
If you read the verb there the verb is "can" not "must", I
choose the
verb "can" on purpose for the resolution when I wrote it.
The TC has the
option to select an appointee. The TC can do other things
as well,
should the TC choose.
I agree- and this is a great example of places where human
judgement is better than rules.
For instance - one of the projects had a nominee but it missed
the deadline, so that's probably an easy on.
For one of the projects it had been looking dead for a while,
so this is the final nail in the coffin from my POV
For the other three - I know they're still active projects
with people interested in them, so sorting them out will be fun!
This is the right approach. Human judgement #ftw! :)
There are 7 projects that will have an election:
Cinder, Glance, Ironic,
Keystone, Mistral, Neutron and Oslo. The details
for those will be
posted tomorrow after Tony and I setup the CIVS
system.
Thank you,
Tristan
[0]:
https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/PTL_Elections_September_2015#Confirmed_Candidates
[1]:
http://governance.openstack.org/resolutions/20141128-elections-process-for-leaderless-programs.html
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