Adrian,

I agree with Steve, otherwise it’s hard to find balance what should go to quick 
start guide (e.g. many operators worry about cpu or I/O instead of memory).
Also I belve auto-scalling deserve it’s own detail document.

—
Egor

From: Adrian Otto <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Reply-To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Date: Thursday, October 8, 2015 at 13:04
To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [magnum] Document adding --memory option to create 
containers

Steve,

I agree with the concept of a simple quickstart doc, but there also needs to be 
a comprehensive user guide, which does not yet exist. In the absence of the 
user guide, the quick start is the void where this stuff is starting to land. 
We simply need to put together a magnum reference document, and start moving 
content into that.

Adrian

On Oct 8, 2015, at 12:54 PM, Steven Dake (stdake) 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Quickstart guide should be dead dead dead dead simple.  The goal of the 
quickstart guide isn’t to tach people best practices around Magnum.  It is to 
get a developer operational to give them that sense of feeling that Magnum can 
be worked on.  The goal of any quickstart guide should be to encourage the 
thinking that a person involving themselves with the project the quickstart 
guide represents is a good use of the person’s limited time on the planet.

Regards
-steve


From: Hongbin Lu <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Reply-To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Date: Thursday, October 8, 2015 at 9:00 AM
To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Subject: [openstack-dev] [magnum] Document adding --memory option to create 
containers

Hi team,

I want to move the discussion in the review below to here, so that we can get 
more feedback

https://review.openstack.org/#/c/232175/

In summary, magnum currently added support for specifying the memory size of 
containers. The specification of the memory size is optional, and the COE won’t 
reserve any memory to the containers with unspecified memory size. The debate 
is whether we should document this optional parameter in the quickstart guide. 
Below is the positions of both sides:

Pros:
·         It is a good practice to always specifying the memory size, because 
containers with unspecified memory size won’t have QoS guarantee.
·         The in-development autoscaling feature [1] will query the memory size 
of each container to estimate the residual capacity and triggers scaling 
accordingly. Containers with unspecified memory size will be treated as taking 
0 memory, which negatively affects the scaling decision.
Cons:
·         The quickstart guide should be kept as simple as possible, so it is 
not a good idea to have the optional parameter in the guide.

Thoughts?

[1] https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/autoscale-bay
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