On 02/12/2016 09:04 PM, Fox, Kevin M wrote:
The problem I've run into though, is project is very well defined in a lot of users
minds, and its not defined the same way openstack typically uses it. A lot of sites use
project in a way that more closely maps to a keystone domain. Though that gets even
muddier with keystone subprojects and domains all kind of merging together. Some other
folks define projects closer to keystone groups. A single "project" may have
permissions on multiple openstack projects.
Tenant as a term was much easier for me to teach users. Since they don't have a predefined notion
of what it is. And get the notion that like a multitenant building, it gives them their own space
in the greater building. IE, the "Foo" project has access to these 3 openstack
"tenants"
There are arguments for both, but we are not going to switch back to
tenant. That would only continue the confusion. We've been working
toward project for 4+ years now.
Thanks,
Kevin
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On 02/12/2016 08:28 PM, Monty Taylor wrote:
On 02/12/2016 06:40 PM, John Griffith wrote:
On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 5:01 AM, Sean Dague <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Ok... this is going to be one of those threads, but I wanted to
try to
get resolution here.
OpenStack is wildly inconsistent in it's use of tenant vs.
project. As
someone that wasn't here at the beginning, I'm not even sure
which one
we are supposed to be transitioning from -> to.
At a minimum I'd like to make all of devstack use 1 term, which
is the
term we're trying to get to. That will help move the needle.
However, again, I'm not sure which one that is supposed to be
(comments
in various places show movement in both directions). So people with
deeper knowledge here, can you speak up as to which is the
deprecated
term and which is the term moving forward.
-Sean
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Sean Dague
http://dague.net
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I honestly don't have any real feeling about one over the other; BUT I
applaud the fact that somebody was brave enough to raise the question
again.
Sounds like Project is where we're supposed to be, so if we can get it
in Keystone we can all go work on updating it once and for all?
Tis all good in keystone. If you're using keystoneauth and keystone v3
everything will work magically. However, there are still some steps
locally for things like config files and whatnot.
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Thank you all.
The tenant vs project thing has been an annoyance for almost the entire
time I've been on OpenStack. If we can standartdize on project moving
forward, it will make things better.
On a terminology thing: when talking about Nova, Glance, etc instead of
using projects, I use the term services. It makes it easier to distinguish.
Tenant never quite made sense to me. A tenant is the person that
occupies an apartment or building, but not the building itself.
Also, the term multi-tenancy implies a degree of isolation between users
that we never quite established between Keystone projects.
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