On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 1:20 PM, Jay Pipes <jaypi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 02/17/2016 09:30 AM, Doug Hellmann wrote: > >> Excerpts from Mike Perez's message of 2016-02-17 03:21:51 -0800: >> >>> On 02/16/2016 11:30 AM, Doug Hellmann wrote: >>> >>>> So I think the project team is doing everything we've asked. We >>>> changed our policies around new projects to emphasize the social >>>> aspects of projects, and community interactions. Telling a bunch >>>> of folks that they "are not OpenStack" even though they follow those >>>> policies is rather distressing. I think we should be looking for >>>> ways to say "yes" to new projects, rather than "no." >>>> >>> >>> My disagreements with accepting Poppy has been around testing, so let me >>> reiterate what I've already said in this thread. >>> >>> The governance currently states that under Open Development "The project >>> has core reviewers and adopts a test-driven gate in the OpenStack >>> infrastructure for changes" [1]. >>> >>> If we don't have a solution like OpenCDN, Poppy has to adopt a reference >>> implementation that is a commercial entity, and infra has to also be >>> dependent on it. I get Infra is already dependent on public cloud >>> donations, but if we start opening the door to allow projects to bring >>> in those commercial dependencies, that's not good. >>> >> >> Only Poppy's test suite would rely on that, though, right? And other >> projects can choose whether to co-gate with Poppy or not. So I don't see >> how this limitation has an effect on anyone other than the Poppy team. >> > > But what would really be tested in Poppy without any commercial CDN > vendor? Nothing functional, right? I believe the fact that Poppy cannot be > functionally tested in the OpenStack CI gate basically disqualifies it from > being "in OpenStack". > There is no implicit (or explicit) requirement for the tests to be a full integration/end-to-end test. Mocks and/or unit tests would be sufficient to satisfy "test-driven gate".
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