Colette Alexander wrote:
On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 1:37 PM, Doug Hellmann <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:As I understood it when this course was originally proposed, the idea was to have a few folks already in leadership positions go take the training and evaluate it. Then, assuming the evaluation was good, we would offer it to (or at least suggest it to) other members of the community like PTLs or folks interested in running for leadership positions of some sort (not that folks who aren't elected can't be leaders, but one step at a time). How did that evolve into most of the TC (and Board?) going? Did someone do that evaluation already?it only evolved into much of the TC going because more people than I initially expected to based on previous conversations expressed interest in being able to attend. The general cost of a single custom-session for a group makes it possible to accommodate that larger group (so, having 10-20 people in an exclusive, not-public session, is within the bounds of expected attendance). No one from the board so far has said they'd be able to attend, fwiw, and I've checked with a few of them privately to gauge interest, which seems minimal there. I don't think the expectation that this is an 'official' or 'required' training is suddenly there, though - this will still be intended to be an evaluative session, just one that was more conducive, timing-wise, to the schedules of people who expressed interest in attending it.
I fear that a part of it is that some TC members realized that a critical mass of TC members would attend, which turns the event into a sort of TC midcycle (if only in social events like dinners), so they decided they should probably join to not be excluded. I sure would like to be there is half the TC members will be around: sounds like the avenue for pretty interesting discussions.
My fear with making that TC-only are the following: it increases the artificial rift between the TC members and the rest of the community, and it ignores that our leadership is not limited to TC members, but includes PTLs, cross-project liaisons and other thankless jobs. As a result, it reduces the value of the experiment by drawing only from the TC ranks (rather than inviting a sample representation of leadership to assess the training), and unnecessarily fuels the us vs. them attitude.
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