On 04/21/2016 02:08 PM, Devananda van der Veen wrote:
On Thu, Apr 21, 2016 at 9:07 AM, Michael Krotscheck
<krotsch...@gmail.com <mailto:krotsch...@gmail.com>> wrote:

    Hey everyone-

    So, HPE is seeking sponsors to continue the core party. The reasons
    are varied - internal sponsors have moved to other projects, the Big
    Tent has drastically increased the # of cores, and the upcoming
    summit format change creates quite a bit of uncertainty on
    everything surrounding the summit.

    Furthermore, the existence of the Core party has been...
    contentious. Some believe it's exclusionary, others think it's
    inappropriate, yet others think it's a good way to thank those of
    use who agree to be constantly pestered for code reviews.

    I'm writing this message for two reasons - mostly, to kick off a
    discussion on whether the party is worthwhile.


The rationale for the creation of the first "core party" in Hong Kong
was to facilitate a setting for informal discussions that could bring
about a consensus on potentially-contentious cross-project topics, when
there was no other time or location that brought together all the TC
members, PTLs, and project core reviewers -- many of whom did not yet
know each other. Note that Hong Kong was the first summit where the
Technical Committee was composed of elected members, not just PTLs, and
we did not have a separate day at the design summit to discuss
cross-project issues.

The first cross-project design summit tracks were held at the following
summit, in Atlanta, though I recall it lacking the necessary
participation to be successful. Today, we have many more avenues to
discuss important topics affecting all (or more than one) projects. The
improved transparency into those discussions is beneficial to everyone;
the perceived exclusivity of the "core party" is helpful to no one.

So, in summary, I believe this party served a good purpose in Hong Kong
and Atlanta. While it provided some developers with a quiet evening for
discussions to happen in Paris, Vancouver, and Tokyo, we now have other
(better) venues for the discussions this party once facilitated, and it
has outlived its purpose.

For what it's worth, I would be happy to see it replaced with smaller
gatherings around cross-project initiatives. I continue to believe that
one of the most important aspects of our face-to-face gatherings, as a
community, is building the camaraderie and social connections between
developers, both within and across corporate and project boundaries.

I was in the middle of an email that said some of this, but this says it better.

So, ++

-Devananda


    Secondly, to signal to other organizations that this promotional
    opportunity is available.

    Personally, I appreciate being thanked for my work. I do not
    necessarily need to be thanked in this fashion, however as the past
    venues have been far more subdued than the Tuesday night events
    (think cocktail party), it's a welcome mid-week respite for this
    overwhelmed little introvert. I don't want to see it go, but I will
    understand if it does.

    Some numbers, for those who like them (Thanks to Mark Atwood for
    providing them):

    Total repos: 1010
    Total approvers: 1085
    Repos for official teams: 566
    OpenStack repo approvers: 717
    Repos under release management: 90
    Managed release repo approvers: 281

    Michael

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