To all who have said the Core Party was a bad thing, let me echo Sean's 
feelings, and add that I actually liked the core parties more than any of the 
others, and actually found them to be a very good thing. I too got to meet 
people who I would normally not have had a chance to have a conversation with.

They were the only social events where one could have a conversation without 
having to talk over music at 179dB (tissue death occurs at 180dB, [1]). 
However, the thing that some have called exclusivity (exclusionary) is not 
consistent with OpenStack. 

I would therefore like to take the opportunity to thank Mark and the team who 
have run these events in the past, and make a request for more social events 
where the sound level is limited to, say 80dB? 

The value of the social events is in the social interactions and the 
conversation, and the opportunity to meet and interact with people in the 
community that one would not have otherwise had a chance to do. I can do 
without the hearing loss, thank you very much.

So thanks Mark, and thanks to team HP for making this possible.

-amrith

[1] http://www.gcaudio.com/resources/howtos/loudness.html

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sean Dague [mailto:s...@dague.net]
> Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2016 4:12 PM
> To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org
> Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] Summit Core Party after Austin
> 
> On 04/21/2016 04:04 PM, Monty Taylor wrote:
> > On 04/21/2016 02:08 PM, Devananda van der Veen wrote:
> >> The first cross-project design summit tracks were held at the
> >> following summit, in Atlanta, though I recall it lacking the
> >> necessary participation to be successful. Today, we have many more
> >> avenues to discuss important topics affecting all (or more than one)
> >> projects. The improved transparency into those discussions is
> >> beneficial to everyone; the perceived exclusivity of the "core party"
> is helpful to no one.
> >>
> >> So, in summary, I believe this party served a good purpose in Hong
> >> Kong and Atlanta. While it provided some developers with a quiet
> >> evening for discussions to happen in Paris, Vancouver, and Tokyo, we
> >> now have other
> >> (better) venues for the discussions this party once facilitated, and
> >> it has outlived its purpose.
> >>
> >> For what it's worth, I would be happy to see it replaced with smaller
> >> gatherings around cross-project initiatives. I continue to believe
> >> that one of the most important aspects of our face-to-face
> >> gatherings, as a community, is building the camaraderie and social
> >> connections between developers, both within and across corporate and
> project boundaries.
> >
> > I was in the middle of an email that said some of this, but this says
> > it better.
> >
> > So, ++
> 
> Agree. I'd like to thank Mark for this contribution to our community. I
> know that I had interactions with folks at these events that I probably
> wouldn't have otherwise, that led to understanding different parts of our
> project space and culture.
> 
>       -Sean
> 
> --
> Sean Dague
> http://dague.net
> 
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