On 9/8/2016 2:21 AM, Martin André wrote:
On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 11:58 PM, Steven Dake (stdake) <std...@cisco.com> wrote:
Sean,



I’d recommend deploy-hosts (I assume this is the bootstrap renamed?)
+1
I also like deploy-host better than the other proposed names. Can we
update the poll to include this option?

I have some concern that present-day conversation, operator support, and code reviews often refer to the host that will run kolla-ansible as the 'kolla host' or the 'deploy host'. So I worry this will be very ambiguous (i.e.: "your next step is to run deploy-hosts on the deployment host to deploy the hosts"). I'd lean more towards terminology like "target-prep", "install-node-deps", or similar.

imho this is really an opportunity to be more consistent with these terms project-wide or (perhaps more reasonably) just work towards making other references match the decision here. We tell a lot of people to start with AIO via vagrant and it (the Vagrantfile - likely the defacto most-read documentation we have) refers to these as the operator host and the nodes, most of the documentation calls them the deployment host and either the target nodes or deployment targets, and this change would make the name of the step to install dependencies on the nodes/target nodes/deployment targets to deploy-host[s] which sounds more like a reference to creating multiple instances of the deployment host/operator (I know, that's not even a thing).

Obviously you can't control what Kolla users refer to these components as when asking for help or etc., but I suspect it may be frustrating for them to use different official names as they make their particular progression through stages such as AIO vagrant, AIO baremetal, multinode in VMs, and multinode baremetal (actually, if you're having to read all of these sentences more slowly or even twice because I'm using all of the common terms in all contexts - *that*). :D


I’d also add a duplicate API of “deploy” and mark deploy as deprecated and
follow the standard deprecation policies.  I’d recommend making the new
OpenStack specific deploy command deploy-openstack
Agreed.

Martin

I think I'm lost on this part. Does 'deploy'/deploy command here refer to 'kolla-ansible deploy' or something else entirely? AFAIK that is still a wholly separate step, unless we were just trying to make it consistent with the role rename at hand.

Thank you,
Mark

Regards

-steve





From: "sean.k.moo...@intel.com" <sean.k.moo...@intel.com>
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Date: Wednesday, September 7, 2016 at 11:51 AM
To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)"
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Subject: [openstack-dev] [poll][kolla] Name of baremetal role/group



Hi

I recently introduced a new baremetal role/group which is used as part of
the kolla-host playbook.

https://github.com/openstack/kolla/tree/master/ansible/roles/baremetal

This baremetal role is used to install all the dependencies required to
deploy kolla containers on a “baremetal” host.

The host does not have to be baremetal it can be a vm but the term baremetal
was originally chosen as unlike other rules in

Kolla it installs and configures packages on the host os.



Given that kolla also has baremetal as a service via ironic and baremetal
provision of servers with bifrost the question I would like

To ask is should we change the name of the current role to install the kolla
dependencies to something else.



I have created a strawpoll link for this here
http://www.strawpoll.me/11175159

The options available in the strawpool are:

·         kolla-host

·         host

·         baremetal

·         pre-install

If there are any other suggestions fell free to discuss them in this thread.

I will check the poll Friday evening gmt and submit a patch for review if
consensus is that it should be changed.



Regards

Sean.


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