On 09/09/16 10:22 +0000, John Davidge wrote:
Thierry Carrez wrote:[...] In the last years there were a lot of "questions" asked by random contributors, especially around the "One OpenStack" principle (which seems to fuel most of the reaction here). Remarks like "we should really decide once and for all if OpenStack is a collection of independent projects, or one thing". A lot of people actually ignore that this question was already asked, pretty early on (by John Dickinson in June 2011). Back then it was settled by the PPB (the ancestor to the TC). You can read it all here[1]. It was never brought again as a proposed change to the TC, so that decision from June 2011 is still defining how we should think about OpenStack. Most of the TC members know the governance history and know those principles. That is, after all, one of the reasons you elect them for. But we realized that the people asking those questions again and again were not at fault. It was our failure to *document* this history properly which caused the issue. Took us some time to gather the courage to write it, then finally Monty wrote a draft, and I turned it into a change.To provide a counter point, I think the reason this question is asked so often is not because the TC has failed to *document* this policy, but that it has failed to *comply* with it. I¹m of course referring to the introduction of The Big Tent. This is the moment that OpenStack stopped being: ³A single product made of a lot of independent, but cooperating, components.² And became: ³A collection of independent projects that work together for some level of integration and releases.² This is in direct contradiction to the stated and collectively understood goal of the project, and has left many scratching their heads. The principles as written in the review do not accurately describe the current state of the project. To make it so that they do, we either need to change the principles or change the project. As I see it, our options are: 1. Adjust the project to reflect the principles by abolishing The Big Tent. 2. Adjust the principles to reflect the project by redefining it as: ³A collection of independent projects that work together for some level of integration and releases.²
I think #2 is missing a critical part, which is that these "independent" projects are working towards a unified mission. This differentiates OpenStack from many other communities out there and it helps understanding the principles and other changes a bit better. But I might be biased here :/ Either way, writing down this principles has proven the effort useful already. It doesn't matter if the outcome is a well thought-out document or a set of changes to the community. The time spent writing this document is already helping us to get rid of some tribal knowledge. Flavio -- @flaper87 Flavio Percoco
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