Ed Leafe wrote: > On Dec 12, 2016, at 11:16 AM, Jeffrey Zhang <zhang.lei....@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Some contributors in kolla have had unscheduled video meetings. This has >> resulted in complaints about inclusiveness. Some contributors can’t even make >> the meeting we have, and another scheduled video meeting might produce a >> situation in which there is no any record of decisions made during the video >> meeting. At least with IRC meetings there is always a log. > > Occasionally a quick Google hangout is necessary in Nova in order to quickly > settle an outstanding issue so we can continue to make progress. When that > happens, the link is posted in the #openstack-nova channel, and anyone who is > interested can join. So while it’s not logged like an IRC meeting, it’s no > excluding anyone, and we can quickly remove roadblocks that are harder to do > in IRC.
Last time I checked, Google Hangouts were not accessible from China... So it *is* excluding some contributors ? I think it's fine to use Hangouts or phone calls to quickly go through an issue. But if those become routine and if contributors express that those are making them feel (or be) excluded, then it is important to reassess your usage of them before it starts threatening our "open development" and "open community" pillars. And in all cases, regular team meetings (or decision-making meetings) should happen on IRC in logged channels. -- Thierry Carrez (ttx) __________________________________________________________________________ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev