> On Nov 22, 2014, at 5:08 AM, Michael Chapman <wop...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 8:51 AM, Craig Tracey <cr...@craigtracey.com> wrote:
>> Great input Kris.  We also took a look at Anvil, and as you mention it is 
>> heavily biased for RH based distros.  
>> 
>> With regard to your requirements:
>> 1) Under the cover for Giftwrap we use fpm for package creation, so debs and 
>> rpms are merely a flag to toggle.
> 
> During the Paris session someone specifically mentioned they didn't want to 
> use fpm, and wanted plain spec files instead. If that person is on this list, 
> or if there's anyone else in that position, care to elaborate? Is there a 
> specific limitation people are concerned about?
>  

We get this request pretty commonly - the most common use case I hear like this 
is people who want to start with a "reference" build (RDO / OSP, UCA, etc) and 
minimally customize. So they want to stay with the original spec or debian/* 
packaging and tweak, vs package de novo


>> 2) Giftwrap is targeted for precisely this workflow.  We pull our OpenStack 
>> source from a forked git repo, with any patches applied.  The giftwrap 
>> manifest allows for specification of repo as well as ref.
> 
> I asked you about this in Paris, but for the benefit of the list, what about 
> native packages? I find I need to package things like libvirt as well. As a 
> community are we expecting to run one packaging tool for Openstack's python 
> packages and one tool for everything else, or do we expect that to be 
> combined into a single tool that can handle both?
>  

Strong preference for same tool doing both. Which couples with the above point 
to land on "need a generic rpm / deb builder" at least for those use cases

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