+1 to John's recollection - I believe this was also how we were going to look 
at proposed/incubated projects. As long as the integration required with 
packaging/CI is present (or the project members will own responsibility for the 
gap), I think we should let projects do what they will.

Joshua McKenty
Piston Cloud Computing, Inc.
(650) 283-6846
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On 2011-06-07, at 3:35 AM, John Dickinson wrote:

> On Jun 6, 2011, at 2:17 PM, Thierry Carrez wrote:
> 
>> Eric Day wrote:
>>> Yup, sounds accurate. Still waiting on the integration bits, and
>>> once things are functional and features/drawbacks were documented,
>>> make a final call. There were also talks of doing a larger community
>>> vote (like PPB/PTL votes) to make sure we're not changing only for
>>> a vocal minority.
>> 
>> +1
>> 
>> The idea is to come up with a clear cost/benefit analysis and present it
>> to the PPB which will estimate if the benefit outweighs the cost for the
>> project.
>> 
>> We already know from the design summit that developers seem to prefer
>> the tool they are the most used to -- the question now is how costly it
>> is to move. From the tools integration standpoint, but also other aspects.
> 
> It seems that I misremembered. We (the swift team) were simply waiting for 
> the conversion tools to be done (which they are) and for us to have the time 
> to transition the code (which will happen soon).
> 
> That being said, I am looking for a way for the swift devs to use the tools 
> of their choice (git/github in this case) and a way for the Openstack 
> organization to package and have visibility into the swift project. Having 
> gone through one round of a release now, I do see some great advantages for 
> Launchpad's packaging process. However, I would like to see swift moved to 
> github as soon as possible, probably with a Launchpad mirror of the code to 
> maintain the packaging advantages. Basically, I think that the packagers 
> should use their preferred tool (Launchpad) and the devs should use their 
> preferred tool (git). And for that matter, I'm a fan of independent projects 
> choosing their own dev tools as long as they have integration with the 
> packaging team.
> 
> --John
> 
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