Guys, I suggest we turn down the heat and rhetoric on this. We all are working to make OpenStack great, and need to work through our internal issues/disagreements in concise and professional manners.
Prior to anyone doing anything regarding projects moving to GitHub, let's get a plan on the table to review and discuss (as per the plan from the DS). Going forward we obviously have more work to do as a group to get consensus on how projects live and are developed within the overall OpenStack project. From this discussion I actually think we are getting closer to defining the various (divergent) viewpoints on how the overall project should be managed. Instead of allowing these sorts of disagreements to fester, let's set aside time to calmly and rationally address the issues. Thanks, John -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Soren Hansen Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 9:42 AM To: Chuck Thier Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Openstack-poc] github 2011/6/7 Chuck Thier <[email protected]>: > It saddens me that this is what OpenStack is becoming. Me too. > There is no reason that the swift team couldn't right now just fork to > github, and leave the pieces for you to figure out. Except we're supposed to be part of the same project. This implies *some* amount of convergence and cooperation. > Instead, they are trying to do the right thing, work within the system and get > things done in a way that will work for all sides. I don't see this happening *at all*. I see no effort to adjust Swift to the framework, only effort to adjust the framework to make Swift fit without much (or any) change. Swift has its own separate release cycle, own versioning scheme, is now proposing to tell everyone else to mind their own business, because they're switching a critical part of their infrastructure regardless of what anyeone else thinks. The Bexar design summit also revealed little to no interest in having parts of the various projects' code converge. Everyone else was free to use stuff from Swift, but shouldn't bother trying to get anything to move in the opposite direction. > You on the other hand are ready to just kick them out just like that? I don't see anyone kicking anyone out. I do see people saying they'll do whatever they please, regardless of what the project as a whole thinks is a good idea. In my book, that constitutes leaving the project. If that's not what it means, "OpenStack" ends up being nothing more than marketing label a few lucky projects get to stick in their name. I *know* that's not the OpenStack *I* signed up for. -- Soren Hansen | http://linux2go.dk/ Ubuntu Developer | http://www.ubuntu.com/ OpenStack Developer | http://www.openstack.org/ _______________________________________________ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack-poc Post to : [email protected] Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack-poc More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp _______________________________________________ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack-poc Post to : [email protected] Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack-poc More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
